Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

[Schneed10]

Zorn spoke to reporters, documented in this article, and said:

- The Redskins plan to be "active" in free agency but will make efforts not to overpay.
- The Redskins plan to retain Jason Taylor.
- The Redskins intend to re-sign Pete Kendall and DeAngelo Hall, but not necessarily before they hit the open market on Feb. 27th.

From a salary cap perspective this is rather interesting. In order to create the cap room to resign Pete Kendall and DeAngelo Hall AND be active in free agency, the Redskins WILL have to shed more players. If Jason Taylor is not to be among the cuts, I think it makes Marcus Washington's departure a certainty, and increases the chances Springs will be released as well.

Then again, Zorn is not in charge of player personnel and could be speaking out of turn. Or flat out throwing up a smokescreen. It will be interesting to see what Vinny does.

[MTK]

I was a bit surprised at Zorn's comments about being aggressive. But does he mean they will be aggressive with going after big names? Or just aggressive in going after the guys they know will be a good fit and not necessarily a big name? I'm leaning/hoping towards the latter.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was a bit surprised at Zorn's comments about being aggressive. But does he mean they will be aggressive with going after big names? Or just aggressive in going after the guys they know will be a good fit and not necessarily a big name? I'm leaning/hoping towards the latter.

Yeah that's very possible, they could be aggressive when it comes to signing depth rather than starters.

Now, I will say this. The Redskins can probably find ways to clear more cap space than I noted was possible in the first post in this thread. They could begin giving contract extensions to lots of guys, like they did with Carter and Randle-El. That creates more cap space now. But it's a gamble because if the CBA does get extended they'll put themselves in a significant salary cap bind down the road. If the CBA doesn't get extended and the league goes uncapped, then it's not a problem.

The uncertain status of the CBA is making it tough to forecast the team's moves.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Zorn spoke to reporters, documented in this article, and said:

- The Redskins plan to be "active" in free agency but will make efforts not to overpay.
- The Redskins plan to retain Jason Taylor.
- The Redskins intend to re-sign Pete Kendall and DeAngelo Hall, but not necessarily before they hit the open market on Feb. 27th.

From a salary cap perspective this is rather interesting. In order to create the cap room to resign Pete Kendall and DeAngelo Hall AND be active in free agency, the Redskins WILL have to shed more players. If Jason Taylor is not to be among the cuts, I think it makes Marcus Washington's departure a certainty, and increases the chances Springs will be released as well.

Then again, Zorn is not in charge of player personnel and could be speaking out of turn. Or flat out throwing up a smokescreen. It will be interesting to see what Vinny does.

yeah, I thought so too. Maybe the word "active" is all relative here. To Zorn "active" might mean looking at all possible scenarios, making some contact w/agents, but not signing much. Around dc, "active" has come to mean signing several players to relatively big multi-year deals.

I agree w/your possible scenarios in terms of Zorn speaking out of turn. At worst, this could be one huge disconnect between he & vinny. At best, Zorn is strategically speaking to the media. He's never done that before & doesn't seem too adept at handling the pr/slant role of being a head coach, so I doubt that's what he's trying to do. Plus, it would make sense to do that if you want to drive up the price on free agents. If they really want to sign Hall, they certainly don't want to give the rest of the nfl the impression they'll set the market.

[53Fan]

The biggest names I'd like to sign right now are Vernon Carey and Hunter Smith. I think these guys would fulfill 2 of our biggest needs.

[Schneed10]

Or Vinny could go against Zorn's comments, get rid of Jason Taylor, and then we'd have plenty of cap space to be aggressive without mortgaging the future in a capped world.

But one thing's certain, we can't have our cake and eat it too. We have to choose between:

- Being quiet in free agency.

- Being active in free agency, keeping our vets like Springs and Taylor, and gambling with our future by extending contracts.

- Being active in free agency and shedding vets like Washington, Springs and Taylor.

[SmootSmack]

There are a couple more contract restructures on the way

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are a couple more contract restructures on the way

Any insight as to whether they involve adding years (extensions) or not?

[Ruhskins]

Given what the market is like right now and our lack of picks/cap space, I think Zorn meant being active in free agency to add depth, or going after guys like Carey who can start right away and contribute, but who are not that expensive (i.e. Jordan Gross type money).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Any insight as to whether they involve adding years (extensions) or not?

Not sure

[Schneed10]

The top post in this thread has been updated to reflect the release of Marcus Washington. I have us at $3.6 million in cap space at the moment, pending an official calculation from CC.

We gained $4.5 million in space by cutting Washington, but doing so bumped him out of the top 51 and someone else into it (I'm making a preliminary assumption of $300K moving into the top 51).

I'm continuing to forecast that the Redskins create further cap space by either extending Springs and Taylor, or flat out cutting one or both of them. The additional cap space gained from this would only really allow them to re-sign/tender their own free agents and sign their own draft picks. I'm still not seeing how an "active" free agency (per Zorn) is possible, unless you count re-signing Demetric Evans, DeAngelo Hall, Pete Kendall, tendering Golston Monty and Doughty, and signing a kicker as an active free agency.

It should be noted though that Phillip Daniels' contract is due to void before free agency starts. The team could elect to allow that to happen, let him sit on the market, and eventually bring him back at vet minimum. Doing this would free up about $1.0 - 1.5 million in cap space.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The top post in this thread has been updated to reflect the release of Marcus Washington. I have us at $3.6 million in cap space at the moment, pending an official calculation from CC.

We gained $4.5 million in space by cutting Washington, but doing so bumped him out of the top 51 and someone else into it (I'm making a preliminary assumption of $300K moving into the top 51).

You must be a joy to go shopping with . We can buy this couch, but doing so would assume X amount being moved to the kitchen renovation, but if we wait until June 1...

I'm continuing to forecast that the Redskins create further cap space by either extending Springs and Taylor, or flat out cutting one or both of them. The additional cap space gained from this would only really allow them to re-sign/tender their own free agents and sign their own draft picks. I'm still not seeing how an "active" free agency (per Zorn) is possible, unless you count re-signing Demetric Evans, DeAngelo Hall, Pete Kendall, tendering Golston Monty and Doughty, and signing a kicker as an active free agency.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned much is that some teams (don't know which) have apparently expressed some interest in Montgomery and Golston, the Redskins could work out essentially a sign and trade with those guys as they are RFAs. So it's kind of like when the Redskins traded Bryan Johnson (who was an UDFA) to Chicago for a 6th rounder. Monty and/or Golston would likely command a higher pick.

It should be noted though that Phillip Daniels' contract is due to void before free agency starts. The team could elect to allow that to happen, let him sit on the market, and eventually bring him back at vet minimum. Doing this would free up about $1.0 - 1.5 million in cap space.

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That's probably going to happen. JLC mentioned restructuring Samuels and Griffin as options. That's possible. I've heard some contracts will be restructured just hadn't heard which.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The top post in this thread has been updated to reflect the release of Marcus Washington. I have us at $3.6 million in cap space at the moment, pending an official calculation from CC.

We gained $4.5 million in space by cutting Washington, but doing so bumped him out of the top 51 and someone else into it (I'm making a preliminary assumption of $300K moving into the top 51).

I'm continuing to forecast that the Redskins create further cap space by either extending Springs and Taylor, or flat out cutting one or both of them. The additional cap space gained from this would only really allow them to re-sign/tender their own free agents and sign their own draft picks. I'm still not seeing how an "active" free agency (per Zorn) is possible, unless you count re-signing Demetric Evans, DeAngelo Hall, Pete Kendall, tendering Golston Monty and Doughty, and signing a kicker as an active free agency.

It should be noted though that Phillip Daniels' contract is due to void before free agency starts. The team could elect to allow that to happen, let him sit on the market, and eventually bring him back at vet minimum. Doing this would free up about $1.0 - 1.5 million in cap space.

One another note Schneed, they're not going to tender Doughty so he's pretty much gone.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One another note Schneed, they're not going to tender Doughty so he's pretty much gone.

Curious about this move... does it possibly mean the FO and Springs are talking seriously about him moving to safety (and staying in DC obviously)?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One another note Schneed, they're not going to tender Doughty so he's pretty much gone.

So how does this work out for picks? Since we drafted Doughty and he is let go then what do we get if anything?