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Old 05-26-2022, 12:40 PM   #1
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More stuff coming out.

IMO as a community when you see stuff on social media especially if it is DMed to you got report it.

Seem like the school even had very good barriers to prevent this. So sad.

Everyday my kids get off the bus and come home I feel blessed.
Most of these shooters seem to have pretty huge red-flags when looking back in hindsight. I wish I had a magic answer, but hindsight is too late. Need to find a way to notice all of the flags before its too late.

Like you said, if someone mentions shooting people, tell someone. That can't be taken as "we didn't think he was serious" ever again.

Note - Not saying that was necessarily the case here, because she didn't even know him. But its still beyond unfortunate that she didn't tell someone.
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Old 05-26-2022, 01:29 PM   #2
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Most of these shooters seem to have pretty huge red-flags when looking back in hindsight. I wish I had a magic answer, but hindsight is too late. Need to find a way to notice all of the flags before its too late.

Like you said, if someone mentions shooting people, tell someone. That can't be taken as "we didn't think he was serious" ever again.

Note - Not saying that was necessarily the case here, because she didn't even know him. But its still beyond unfortunate that she didn't tell someone.
Also keep in mind we really don't know how many shootings are stopped too. the whole system could have a 1% fail rate for all we know. Obviously even 1% is too much but very few things in this world are 100%
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:47 PM   #3
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Also keep in mind we really don't know how many shootings are stopped too. the whole system could have a 1% fail rate for all we know. Obviously even 1% is too much but very few things in this world are 100%
Not even the 1st threat to schools in this same area. Geez.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-tee...-shooting-plot
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:27 PM   #4
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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/s...17687894274048

I'm trying to stay out of this forum for my sanity, but here we are. I know I know - how dare CNN exploit this tragedy by putting a camera on people who just had their heart ripped out. If I may, I'd like to take the focus off Anderson Cooper and put it on this dad. Put yourself in his shoes - imagine you go to the scene of a mass shooting at your daughter's school to help as a medic - and you approach a blood soaked little girl who tells you that her best friend died - and her best friend's name is your daughter's name. That's how he found out. Heartbreaking.

Imagine you're a conservative politician at a press conference and you get more upset about Beto being rude than you do about 20 little kids dying horrifically in a locked classroom with no way out. Imagine your solution is to put armed security in every school - great? What about heavily armed security with body armor for every shopping center? Every public gathering? How about we add weapons master to the already-long list of certs a teacher has to get? They're adequately paid right?

You don't need to respond, because I'm gonna ignore it. Just wanted to vent. I'll get over it - just in time for the next one next week.
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:42 PM   #5
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Trying to rack my brains here but has there ever been a mass shooting at a private school?

If not what are they doing different or its just coincidence they have not been attacked ?
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:51 PM   #6
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Why are guns banned from the NRA conference tomorrow? Don't you want legally armed citizens around in case a nutjob tries to attack that too?
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:00 PM   #7
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Why are guns banned from the NRA conference tomorrow? Don't you want legally armed citizens around in case a nutjob tries to attack that too?
I think that's pretty standard at venues where Presidents and former Presidents will be in attendance.
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:04 PM   #8
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I think that's pretty standard at venues where Presidents and former Presidents will be in attendance.
Dumb, what does a former President have to fear in a large room full of his most loyal law abiding supporters - while also being surrounded by his personal Secret Service detail?
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Dumb, what does a former President have to fear in a large room full of his most loyal law abiding supporters - while also being surrounded by his personal Secret Service detail?
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:35 PM   #10
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Dumb, what does a former President have to fear in a large room full of his most loyal law abiding supporters - while also being surrounded by his personal Secret Service detail?
Like I said, it's Standard Operating Procedure. It has nothing to do with what a former President may or may not fear.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:16 PM   #11
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The thing I don't get is how people try to explain away the reasons why mass shootings don't happen in other countries, but they do here.

Other countries don't have the same mental health difficulties as we do? Yes they do.

Other countries aren't as racially diverse as we are? Yes, many are.

Other countries don't have pockets of poor and disadvantaged citizens? Yes they do.

Other countries don't have kids who've been bullied or had challenging upbringings? Yes they do.

What's the difference? We allow access to guns, they don't. It's not that hard.
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The thing I don't get is how people try to explain away the reasons why mass shootings don't happen in other countries, but they do here.

Other countries don't have the same mental health difficulties as we do? Yes they do.

Other countries aren't as racially diverse as we are? Yes, many are.

Other countries don't have pockets of poor and disadvantaged citizens? Yes they do.

Other countries don't have kids who've been bullied or had challenging upbringings? Yes they do.

What's the difference? We allow access to guns, they don't. It's not that hard.

Same game plan used to exploit American voters past and present

1. Fake experts
2. Logical fallacies
3. Impossible expectations
4. Cherry picking data
5. Conspiracy theories
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Old 05-28-2022, 12:37 PM   #13
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Re: Parkland Shooting

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The thing I don't get is how people try to explain away the reasons why mass shootings don't happen in other countries, but they do here.

Other countries don't have the same mental health difficulties as we do? Yes they do.

Other countries aren't as racially diverse as we are? Yes, many are.

Other countries don't have pockets of poor and disadvantaged citizens? Yes they do.

Other countries don't have kids who've been bullied or had challenging upbringings? Yes they do.

What's the difference? We allow access to guns, they don't. It's not that hard.
Yeah I’m beyond tired with the it’s a mental health issue take, like we’re the only country with mental health issues or something. Also tired of the we need more good guys with guns BS. We have a gun problem simple as that.
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Old 05-28-2022, 12:53 PM   #14
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Yeah I’m beyond tired with the it’s a mental health issue take, like we’re the only country with mental health issues or something. Also tired of the we need more good guys with guns BS. We have a gun problem simple as that.
+1 ,as the GOP has shown there will be no new gun laws, none.
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Old 05-28-2022, 04:24 PM   #15
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+1 ,as the GOP has shown there will be no new gun laws, none.
Nope, nothing

And next time a school gets shot up it will be the same BS

These do nothing politicians just need to come out and say it, guns are more important to them than human lives, even children.
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