Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is a buy low sell high thread. Should we consider trading Cooley, certainly if the offer is right, but a 2nd round pick for a consistent Pro Bowl, and good locker room presence(life coach in fact), is way too low. I would say a low first, or high 2nd, with a conditional 2nd/3rd rd pick the following year. Having said that, it really is kinda foolish to trade because of 4-6 good games by FD. He seems to be a baller, but one season isn't enough to get rid of a high caliber player.

exactly, and whats with the we need youth crap cooley is a f-ing tightend and he is 27 this is his fifth year in the league besides qb and db tight ends have some long playing careers in the nfl. does everyone want everyplayer on this team to be under the 25? get real.

cooley and davis double set next year will be amazing, and i'd love to see if cooley can put on a little more muscle this offseason and we could use him out of the back field more, so many people keep saying two te sets don't work, why the f not?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is a buy low sell high thread. Should we consider trading Cooley, certainly if the offer is right, but a 2nd round pick for a consistent Pro Bowl, and good locker room presence(life coach in fact), is way too low. I would say a low first, or high 2nd, with a conditional 2nd/3rd rd pick the following year. Having said that, it really is kinda foolish to trade because of 4-6 good games by FD. He seems to be a baller, but one season isn't enough to get rid of a high caliber player.

Nice post CR. I doubt anbody would give us enough to make the trade worth it for the skins , too many Athletic TE's coming out college . Having both would also provide us with depth . If a team offered a 1st and 3rd , ya I would make that trade .

[Landry44]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is a buy low sell high thread. Should we consider trading Cooley, certainly if the offer is right, but a 2nd round pick for a consistent Pro Bowl, and good locker room presence(life coach in fact), is way too low. I would say a low first, or high 2nd, with a conditional 2nd/3rd rd pick the following year. Having said that, it really is kinda foolish to trade because of 4-6 good games by FD. He seems to be a baller, but one season isn't enough to get rid of a high caliber player.

Shockey and Gonzalez went for a second round picks and both are great TEs. Why wouldn't we trade Cooley for a second round pick? I highly doubt anyone would give up a first rounder for a TE. I think a second round pick would be fair.

[SFREDSKIN]

Why would the Redskins want to trade Cooley? He's a high character guy, one of the team leaders and a great player. I personally would trade Landry who is a great athlete, a free lance type player and is selfish. The question is would you trade a smart, team leader and complete player or a great athlete who is selfish and makes lots of bone headed decisions? You would probably get the same type pick for either one.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Landry44

Shockey and Gonzalez went for a second round picks and both are great TEs. Why wouldn't we trade Cooley for a second round pick? I highly doubt anyone would give up a first rounder for a TE. I think a second round pick would be fair.

Shockey was not getting along in NY, and wanted out. Gonzalez is good, but also OLD. Again, if Cooley wanted out, or was causing problems, then yes a 2nd is fair, but he is young, an established probowler who has significant ties to the community and team, brings in a ton of merchandising revenue(yes that should affect the value we get for him, because he will bring that to the new team as well) and is a very good locker room presence. Shockey and Gonzalez didn't meet that criteria, and Gonzalez was franchised last year I believe - I could be wrong, but not this year. It is crazy to think a stand alone 2nd round pick is a fair market value for Cooley.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Landry44

Shockey and Gonzalez went for a second round picks and both are great TEs. Why wouldn't we trade Cooley for a second round pick? I highly doubt anyone would give up a first rounder for a TE. I think a second round pick would be fair.

This is a good question, and would have led to a not-ridiculous discussion. Arguments could be made both for and against trading him for a second, and it's likely we could fetch that price. Reading this thread it's clear that Skins fans have a delusional view of Cooley's value. Gates, Daniels, and Whitten wouldn't fetch nearly this price, and Cooley is probably not as good as any of those players.

To put some perspective on it, the Bills didn't even get a first and third for Jason Peters, a stud LT in his prime. As good as Cooley is, he's just a probowl TE. He's not the greatest TE of all time and he's not a stud LT. The only possible thing dumber than someone offering us this deal would be us not taking it.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by Landry44

Davis is getting better and better with each passing week. He's younger than Chris Cooley. Do we really need to great TEs, or do we need more picks? We you rather trade Davis who is younger, or go with the older guy? It's not enough balls to go around for both of them. This is a no brainer right here. If someone offers us a 2nd round pick for Cooley we should jump all over it. There are other positions on this team that needs to be address.

I'd trade Landry for a second.

[WaldSkins]

What would you trade Fred Davis for?

[saden1]

A TE in his prime for a 2nd round pick? GTFOH!

+1 for closing this stupid thread.

[MTK]

KWII was traded for a 2nd and a 5th, I think that's similar to what we could get for CC.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

KWII was traded for a 2nd and a 5th, I think that's similar to what we could get for CC.

No dice for anything less than 1'st round or second and third rounder. Honestly though why would anyone in their right mind want to trade him? If nothing else this season has shown it's worth having two quality TE on your team. I love Yoder but he isn't going to make the big catches down the field and YACs like Davis is now. Great TE aren't a dime a dozen folks and 2 is better than one.

[wolfeskins]

it's silly to think anyone would give the skins a first and a third round pick for cooley or for anyone on the skins roster.(maybe orakpo).

keepers on offense:
cooley
davis
thomas
kelly
moss
campbell
dockery
heyer

everyone else is on the fence.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

No dice for anything less than 1'st round or second and third rounder. Honestly though why would anyone in their right mind want to trade him? If nothing else this season has shown it's worth having two quality TE on your team. I love Yoder but he isn't going to make the big catches down the field and YACs like Davis is now. Great TE aren't a dime a dozen folks and 2 is better than one.

The question for me right now is why not? Why not when you have an up and comer in Davis who is younger and cheaper, and if you could get multiple picks in return for CC it would only make sense to see what's out there. I'm not saying you push hard to deal him, you just toss a line out there and see what you bring in.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The question for me right now is why not? Why not when you have an up and comer in Davis who is younger and cheaper, and if you could get multiple picks in return for CC it would only make sense to see what's out there. I'm not saying you push hard to deal him, you just toss a line out there and see what you bring in.

Honestly, I think a lot of people are letting Cooley's likability cloud their judgement on this one.

As a pure football move if someone offered multiple picks with one being a 1st or high 2nd rounder and you are also able to dump Cooley's contract, it really isn't debatable. Especially with him coming off a season ending injury.

Davis is younger, faster, healthier and cheaper.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Honestly, I think a lot of people are letting Cooley's likability cloud their judgement on this one.

As a pure football move if someone offered multiple picks with one being a 1st or high 2nd rounder and you are also able to dump Cooley's contract, it really isn't debatable. Especially with him coming off a season ending injury.

Davis is younger, faster, healthier and cheaper.

I totally agree.

I love the guy just like anyone else, but we would be stupid to not bite on a killer deal, if it were offered.