Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012

SirClintonPortis · 10-19-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No Jamal Charles has produced big time ford hasn't not the same thing bro

Let's start from the top.
Argument
Jacoby Ford has 9 catches out of all games this season(6)
That means he averages 1.5 catches a game
Therefore he is average.

Problem here is that averages don't count games the player doesn't participate in. Ford averages 2.25 catches per in each game was eligible to play.

So, even though Ford has been deemed ineligible for 2 games this season, they should count against him.

So, why don't we apply this to everyone else and not just Ford? I don't care if it's Peyton Manning or JaMarcus Russell. Stats like yards per game are meant to be objective measures. So, should every "per game" stat like catches per game or yards per game count only if the player is active or should it be that every game his team players, even if he is inactive? You can't have it one way for every "unknown" and then favor every superstar with a different stat.

skinsfaninok · 10-23-2011, 10:21 PM

Palmer 3 Ints today

Stuck in TX · 10-23-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Palmer 3 Ints today

Bengals owner: Okay Carson, they are offering us TWO really high draft picks for your washed up services. Go out there and get us the first overall, and we will have all the power. mwahaaaahaaahaaaa!!!

SirClintonPortis · 10-23-2011, 11:40 PM

I think Palmer's failure to perform can be primarily attributed having so little time to learn the playbook. John Beck looked like a total scrub and Kerry Collins was also ineffective when they had to do that.

Lotus · 10-23-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I think Palmer's failure to perform can be primarily attributed having so little time to learn the playbook. John Beck looked like a total scrub and Kerry Collins was also ineffective when they had to do that.

Plus no training camp, no practice time, etc. This week says little about Carson Palmer.

MTK · 10-24-2011, 08:51 AM

Palmer really had no business playing this week. He said he knows about 10% of the offense. And that's probably a pretty generous estimate on his part.

Alvin Walton · 10-24-2011, 08:55 AM

Ah well, at least the Colts game took a little heat off of him.

CrustyRedskin · 10-24-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Palmer really had no business playing this week. He said he knows about 10% of the offense. And that's probably a pretty generous estimate on his part.

Agree in full what were they thinking putting him in after the game was out ouf reach anyway, i know i was a division game but geeeesh. Now the team moral is in the dumps as if it wasnt already.

SirClintonPortis · 10-24-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Palmer really had no business playing this week. He said he knows about 10% of the offense. And that's probably a pretty generous estimate on his part.

Well, Al Davis decided that Kyle Boller was worth a roster spot. Looks like even after death, he manages to make fans desire a real GM for the Raiders.

skinsfan69 · 10-24-2011, 10:42 AM

Oakland really missed Jason Campell yesterday. Wow.

SFREDSKIN · 11-10-2011, 11:29 PM

People judged this trade to soon, you can't expect a QB who's been sitting for 1.5 years come in and perform a miracle. As Palmer learns the offense the Raiders will play better and be contenders, I still think it was a good trade for the Raiders.

diehard · 11-11-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People judged this trade to soon, you can't expect a QB who's been sitting for 1.5 years come in and perform a miracle. As Palmer learns the offense the Raiders will play better and be contenders, I still think it was a good trade for the Raiders.

Good trade for OAK still, better trade for CIN in the long run. Unless of course OAK wins the big game...

WilbursHomie · 11-11-2011, 03:02 AM

I didn't think Carson had a single good game left in him. I stand corrected. I still think they will be few and far between though. Cincinnati wins.

skinsfaninok · 11-11-2011, 07:41 AM

Bengals won this trade folks yeah palmer had a good game last night but his first 2 were bad, ntm he's getting older and hasn't really played well in a few years, I still think SD wins the west at 9-7

MTK · 11-11-2011, 09:54 AM

Palmer seems to be getting up to speed pretty quick, and his arm looks strong.

10-23-2011, 10:21 PM	#152
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 Palmer 3 Ints today __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-23-2011, 11:40 PM	#154
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 I think Palmer's failure to perform can be primarily attributed having so little time to learn the playbook. John Beck looked like a total scrub and Kerry Collins was also ineffective when they had to do that. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

10-24-2011, 08:51 AM	#156
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 Palmer really had no business playing this week. He said he knows about 10% of the offense. And that's probably a pretty generous estimate on his part. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-24-2011, 08:55 AM	#157
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 Ah well, at least the Colts game took a little heat off of him. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

10-24-2011, 10:42 AM	#160
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 Oakland really missed Jason Campell yesterday. Wow.

11-10-2011, 11:29 PM	#161
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 People judged this trade to soon, you can't expect a QB who's been sitting for 1.5 years come in and perform a miracle. As Palmer learns the offense the Raiders will play better and be contenders, I still think it was a good trade for the Raiders. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

11-11-2011, 03:02 AM	#163
WilbursHomie Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 319	I didn't think Carson had a single good game left in him. I stand corrected. I still think they will be few and far between though. Cincinnati wins.

11-11-2011, 07:41 AM	#164
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012 Bengals won this trade folks yeah palmer had a good game last night but his first 2 were bad, ntm he's getting older and hasn't really played well in a few years, I still think SD wins the west at 9-7 __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-11-2011, 09:54 AM	#165
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