ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd

[over the mountain]

d boyz - read up on matt schaub and cassel's tender/tags then trades.

you can tender a player for a 1st and 3rd (or fran tag them), then trade them for whatever you want. it doesnt have to be a 1st and 3rd.

the difference in salary owed to JC under a "same pick" or "1st & 3rd tender" is minimal. like 100k difference.

[CRedskinsRule]

I think the tender reflects more about the team's "respect" for keeping their player. As many have pointed out, a trade can be made for anything once the tender is in place. So the question is can you avoid a JCutler scenario where JC feels put down by the tender level. Having said that JC has been thrown under the bus so many times here, that it will be in MS/BA's hands to make sure that if he ends up staying he doesn't end up becoming a distraction, even that is not his natural tendency.

[D'BOYZ]

yes they can do that but it's less likely somebody would ask for him or the settle for a 5th round pick after they put his value at 1 and 3 just plain logic. If you place the value of you player at 1 and 3 you can move down and as for only a 1st maybe a second but no GM would take a 3rd or less for a player they valued at 1 and 3

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

yes they can do that but it's less likely somebody would ask for him or the settle for a 5th round pick after they put his value at 1 and 3 just plain logic. If you place the value of you player at 1 and 3 you can move down and as for only a 1st maybe a second but no GM would take a 3rd or less for a player they valued at 1 and 3

In a normal situation, maybe. But, the Skins relationship with JC has been so muddied and botched, that most teams are more likely to lowball the Skins, then offer a tender based trade. IMO of course

[over the mountain]

the skins tendering JC at a 1st and 3rd is not a reflection that they value him as being worth a 1st and 3rd. that is the best tender to put him on.

JC gets the most money possible out of the tag/tender options so he has to be somewhat content even if it is just 3.2 mil for 2010. so the skins show JC some respect, maybe keep him happy that he recieved the highest tender, but it is still chump change for an nfl qb.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

yes they can do that but it's less likely somebody would ask for him or the settle for a 5th round pick after they put his value at 1 and 3 just plain logic. If you place the value of you player at 1 and 3 you can move down and as for only a 1st maybe a second but no GM would take a 3rd or less for a player they valued at 1 and 3

Brandon Lloyd was given a 1st round tender by the 49ers but the Skins got him for a 3rd and 4th rounder.

[D'BOYZ]

GM's put a franchise tag of 1 and 3 on a player usually that's hot and lots of teams want. Either they want to scare other GM's away or ask for a lot in a trade the 1 and 3 it's used from hot players like a Miles Austin right now. Or Schuabb whe he was traded they had showed enough for teams really want him and in the case of Atlanta get a lot of value for a guy that at the time was worth more to them as a trade than a player.

putting a tag of 1st and 3rd that nobody sees he's worth that it's useless and a bad GM move

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Brandon Lloyd was given a 1st round tender by the 49ers but the Skins got him for a 3rd and 4th rounder.

yes mattyk but was only a ist round tender which is what I was saying if you put a 1st only you could take a 3rd and 4th for the guy but if you put the highest multiple tender on the guy you can't take less than a 2nd round pick and I don't know if a team will offer a second for Campbell...

[Raw0114]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The Skins can tag Campbell with a first and third tender and then trade him for a Snickers bar if they like.

I hear Dan likes Snicker. Hungry why wait?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

yes mattyk but was only a ist round tender which is what I was saying if you put a 1st only you could take a 3rd and 4th for the guy but if you put the highest multiple tender on the guy you can't take less than a 2nd round pick and I don't know if a team will offer a second for Campbell...

Honestly I don't think a 2nd would be that crazy considering the thin QB market.

In the end though I think the high tender shows JC that the team wants him back for one year at least, and it gives him a decent paycheck that works for both sides.

[SmootSmack]

Y'all should read this:

Julius Peppers among few likely winners in 2010 free agent market - Don Banks - SI.com

"It may be a situation where there are more trades, because if a club tendered a lot of guys, but now someone comes after one of them, maybe they're willing to be flexible and work with you on a trade,'' another veteran NFL general manager said. "Just because his tender is a (first) and a (third)-round pick, maybe they're willing to take less than that and be creative, and now you've got a deal. I think there's going to be a lot of that type of dialogue because of the circumstances this year.''

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Honestly I don't think a 2nd would be that crazy considering the thin QB market.

In the end though I think the high tender shows JC that the team wants him back for one year at least, and it gives him a decent paycheck that works for both sides.

I dont think there's a chance any team would give up a 2nd for JC.

I agree that this shows the team wants him back as they really dont have any other options. I think if they draft a QB then JC can provide some competition and even start for a few weeks until the new guy is up to speed.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont think there's a chance any team would give up a 2nd for JC.

I agree that this shows the team wants him back as they really dont have any other options. I think if they draft a QB then JC can provide some competition and even start for a few weeks until the new guy is up to speed.

There's always Oakland! LOL. Although as someone said it, (unfortunately) they don't know they need a QB.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

There's always Oakland! LOL. Although as someone said it, (unfortunately) they don't know they need a QB.

I think everyone except Al Davis knows they need a QB.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by irish

I think everyone except Al Davis knows they need a QB.

Even JaMarcus Russell!