Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cooley and Rock are not the same situation.

And nobody is chanting. Makes me think we've got some sort of monastery here.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cooley and Rock are not the same situation.

No, but they are both situations where we have younger guys making the case that they may deserve to be higher on the depth chart, thereby making us question whether we need the veterans (rock and cooley) on the roster at all. Cooley would definitely garner noteable compensation. Rock might get us a conditional ham sandwich in 2017.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

No, but they are both situations where we have younger guys making the case that they may deserve to be higher on the depth chart, thereby making us question whether we need the veterans (rock and cooley) on the roster at all. Cooley would definitely garner noteable compensation. Rock might get us a conditional ham sandwich in 2017.

A team wouldn't trade us club level tickets for Rock.

Trading Cooley is possibly an option because he is a pro-bowler but I would have to see a pretty attractive 2nd round player to justify getting rid of a stud.

[hooskins]

dont you think we have a good amount of vet leaders on our offense? A bit of younger talent cant hurt; I mean we are rebuilding right?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

If we keep Cooley and Davis, I wonder if we will move Davis outside a lot to play a Dallas Clark-type role. He's certainly got the speed to play like a slow wideout.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If we keep Cooley and Davis, I wonder if we will move Davis outside a lot to play a Dallas Clark-type role. He's certainly got the speed to play like a slow wideout.

i agree, imagine Davis in the slot... That would be a nightmare match up for a corner.

[SmootSmack]

To me though, as big a reason for looking to move Cooley as Davis' improved play is Cooley's trade value. Of which Rock has none

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

To me though, as big a reason for looking to move Cooley as Davis' improved play is Cooley's trade value. Of which Rock has none

What? are you crazy? have you not been over to the "Ganther/Rock" thread recently? It's so obvious Rock is the best thing we have as a RB right now. Everyone wants him. How on earth would you think he has no trade value?

I hate questions like these. If it's just one or just the other then yes I'm looking for youth. But I don't think Cooley's legs are done yet. I'd much rather see what this team looks like with 2 excellent TE vs. throwing one away with out even exploring how dangerous we could be with 2.

I'm all for "Rebuild". Get rid of the old and bring in the new. But are we going to see a true "Rebuild"? I'm betting we see more of the same. SSDD. Only under a new HC.

Plus if the team picks a LT in the 1st round and a RT in the second, the third is taken from the Jarmin supplement pick, As far as I'm concerned we can pick OL across the board. Ganther has turned out to be a nice RB. Most likely JC will be tendered the one year because of the CAP being gone. Basically we are set at QB, RB, WR, TE for atleast one more year. My only concern is getting another RB and QB for the future if JC doesn't stay. All the young defensive line players are starting to shine. The young CB's are starting to come into their own. We might need a FS and a true SAM or SLB. Wilson is looking good but maybe if the LB's we picked up last year don't pan out we will need to bring in some UFA's and take a look at them.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

What? are you crazy? have you not been over to the "Ganther/Rock" thread recently? It's so obvious Rock is the best thing we have as a RB right now. Everyone wants him. How on earth would you think he has no trade value?

I hate questions like these. If it's just one or just the other then yes I'm looking for youth. But I don't think Cooley's legs are done yet. I'd much rather see what this team looks like with 2 excellent TE vs. throwing one away with out even exploring how dangerous we could be with 2.

I'm all for "Rebuild". Get rid of the old and bring in the new. But are we going to see a true "Rebuild"? I'm betting we see more of the same. SSDD. Only under a new HC.

Plus if the team picks a LT in the 1st round and a RT in the second, the third is taken from the Jarmin supplement pick, As far as I'm concerned we can pick OL across the board. Ganther has turned out to be a nice RB. Most likely JC will be tendered the one year because of the CAP being gone. Basically we are set at QB, RB, WR, TE for atleast one more year. My only concern is getting another RB and QB for the future if JC doesn't stay. All the young defensive line players are starting to shine. The young CB's are starting to come into their own. We might need a FS and a true SAM or SLB. Wilson is looking good but maybe if the LB's we picked up last year don't pan out we will need to bring in some UFA's and take a look at them.

It's kind of funny how much we all like the young (and for the most part, drafted) talent on this team, yet we want to punch Vinny in mouth and throw him on the street.

I still can't stand the guy, and his mismanagement of contracts, coaching staff, and O-line has been pretty pathetic, he has made some good moves worth noting.

Makes me sick to say that, full disclosure.

[SolidSnake84]

I dont think Cooley is going anywhere because of the cap hit. But if there is no cap......

[Landry44]

I would trade Cooley right now for a second round pick. I think he's a great guy and a player. Davis will be just as good or better than Cooley. We don't need to great TE. Right now, we need draft picks. I don't see any other player on this team that's attractive enough for team to trade away a pick to acquire. If someone makes us an offer, I say make the trade.

[47FAN]

nope.

[JLee9718]

Davis is getting better and better judging by the way he's been playing in the last 2 or 3 games. But I still wouldn't trade Cooley.

[Landry44]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

Davis is getting better and better judging by the way he's been playing in the last 2 or 3 games. But I still wouldn't trade Cooley.

Davis is getting better and better with each passing week. He's younger than Chris Cooley. Do we really need to great TEs, or do we need more picks? We you rather trade Davis who is younger, or go with the older guy? It's not enough balls to go around for both of them. This is a no brainer right here. If someone offers us a 2nd round pick for Cooley we should jump all over it. There are other positions on this team that needs to be address.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Landry44

Davis is getting better and better with each passing week. He's younger than Chris Cooley. Do we really need to great TEs, or do we need more picks? We you rather trade Davis who is younger, or go with the older guy? It's not enough balls to go around for both of them. This is a no brainer right here. If someone offers us a 2nd round pick for Cooley we should jump all over it. There are other positions on this team that needs to be address.

This is a buy low sell high thread. Should we consider trading Cooley, certainly if the offer is right, but a 2nd round pick for a consistent Pro Bowl, and good locker room presence(life coach in fact), is way too low. I would say a low first, or high 2nd, with a conditional 2nd/3rd rd pick the following year. Having said that, it really is kinda foolish to trade because of 4-6 good games by FD. He seems to be a baller, but one season isn't enough to get rid of a high caliber player.