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Re: Around the NFL...Offseason Style
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to say the reason that they didn't have enough talent is a result from other teams winning the super bowl w inferior coaching doesn't make any sense. what are some examples of those teams ("with worse coaching and better talent") impacting the talent level of the chargers players? on an unrelated note, what teams are you referring to that won the super bowl w worse coaching and better talent? if you go 14-2, you've got enough talent to win the super bowl. if your coach is marty schottenheimer, history is not on your side. if you go 13-3, you've got enough talent to win the super bowl. if your coach is norv turner, history is not on your side.
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Norv and Marty are both excellent examples of this. Let's not forget Dan Reeves also had great teams in Denver but never won a Super Bowl. Similarly, Marv Levy was the exact same way. His Bills teams lost four straight super bowls in the early 90s. But unlike Norv and Marty, Reeves and Levy made it to Super Bowls. They just couldn't win them whereas Norv and Marty might've coached excellent teams that were probably good enough to win Super Bowls, but they could never make it to one. |
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Re: Around the NFL...Offseason Style
well the cowboys and the 49ers are examples of teams with talent but no coaching (Seifert was just an ok coach and Barry Switzer wasn't a great NFL head coach). The ravens defense is a wildcard in this topic because they were so good and talented it did matter who coached them, but they were coached by marvin lewis, del rio, and mike smith (2/3 are still head coaches).
SD had talent yes, but whenever they lost it was because they were both outplayed and outcoached.
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Re: Around the NFL...Offseason Style
'06 - marlon mccree intercepts brady on 4th down, gets stripped by troy brown, patriots recover, go on to win. if mccree goes down immediately, as most well-coached players do in those situations, who knows how it ends. exit marty
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2009 Kareem Moore intercepts Drew Brees and as he is going down is stripped by Robert Meachem who goes in for a TD. Both of those games would have gone the other way if not for those fluke plays. Those plays are just flukes.
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Re: Around the NFL...Offseason Style
Former Eagles' Prez Banner "laughing" about DeSean Jackson's contract.
DeSean Jackson - Philadelphia Eagles - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com According to the Boston Globe, outgoing Eagles president Joe Banner is "having a good laugh" about DeSean Jackson's five-year, $47 million contract. Per plugged-in Boston Globe reporter Greg Bedard, Banner "never would have done that deal." Banner was considered one of the league's most skilled contract negotiators before losing a power struggle with Andy Reid and GM Howie Roseman. Reid now has absolute power in Philly, in a Belichickian role. SOURCE: Steve Spagnuolo eager to get started with Saints - Boston.com Quote:
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I'm sure he is laughing. I would be too. I wouldn't have paid him that much money after seeing how he quit on the team due to his pouting. Also from that same article. This sound familiar? Quote:
Sincerely, Redskins fans
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Re: Around the NFL...Offseason Style
That Meachem strip was a great play...but so painful.
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Re: Around the NFL...Offseason Style
I remember that play. If only Kareem Moore could have held onto the ball. The thing about it was the Redskins had the Saints number in that game but they weren't able to overcome them.
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You had me right up until the end. The team that wins the SB is the best "team" of the year. Other teams may have had the opportunity to be the best, but, in any given year, the team that wins it all gets to claim the title of "Best Team of _____".
Otherwise, it's all just a beauty contest and we'll all argue over the Russian Judge's score. It may be luck, skill or just the proper alignment of the constellations, but, ultimately, in sports, the "best team" is the team still standing at the end. The most anyone else can be is the "best team that didn't win".
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I think you are arguing over semantics really. According to the trophy, they are the best team. In reality, they are not the best team. Very rare does the best team with the championship in the NFL and in college basketball. For one, it's a one game elimination. If they changed the NFL playoffs to to a 3 game format at each level, you'd see a different story to be quite honest. You think the Giants beat the 2007 Patriots in a best out of 3? Hell no...lol Where they even the best team that year? **** no, they weren't even the best team in their division which is why the Cowboys won it. If they were truly the best team, they would win their division and have home field advantage throughout the playoffs. The regular season is a true indicator of the league's best team. That doesn't mean they are going to win the championship though. Same with NCAA basketball. The last two teams that held the #1 rank at the end of the season and won it all were Kentucky and UNC. It's a very rare feat.
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So, you are saying the Detroit Lions at 2-14 were a better team than the Redskins who they beat in 2010? Do I even need to answer this? So, you are saying the Giants who at 10-6 (didn't even win their division) were a better team than the Patriots at 16-0? Absolutely not. You saying the a 7-9 Seahawks were a better team than a 11-5 Saints? **** no...lol Well hell, lets just have a 1 game elimination from the get go and forgo any and all regular season. Last man standing!! After all, that's basically what you are equating. It's not a hard concept to realize that the best team doesn't always win, but that's what makes the NFL (and NCAA tourny) so awesome, it's because it is a single game elimination and YOUR team has a shot in the playoff no matter how shitty they were in the regular season. If what you are saying is true, then by default, we are super bowl winners since we in fact beat the Giants and Green Bay the past couple years!!! MAKE ROOM IN THE TROPHY CASE GUYS!!! After all, one game apparently means you are the best according to your logic.
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To answer your top 3 questions in order. yes, yes, and yes.
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