Scott Turner Fired

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Probably true.

i get your thinking, but until the sale goes through everything is moot.

Just like i said before its like going to open houses with your wife but then realizing halfway through the tour oh wait we are getting a divorce seems silly to buy a house.

[SFREDSKIN]

Turner wasn't onboard with Wentz trade, can't say I blame him

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-...035409006.html

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Turner wasn't onboard with Wentz trade, can't say I blame him

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-...035409006.html

Oof. Imagine not being onboard with the plan, and then getting fired. He probably feels scapegoated.

Scott isn't here anymore because it wasn't just his inability to get the qb going - he couldn't get the offense going either.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Oof. Imagine not being onboard with the plan, and then getting fired. He probably feels scapegoated.

Scott isn't here anymore because it wasn't just his inability to get the qb going - he couldn't get the offense going either.

They kind of go hand and hand

That be like saying Scott not only couldn't the engine started but he couldn't make the car go forward either.

[GridIron26]

If that's true, then I wonder who Turner would have started as QB1.

[jamf]

Doesn't matter.
Turner never adjusted the game plan to compensate for the piss poor performance of the Oline. Obvious passing downs were disastrous for all 3 QBs because the line couldn't slow a 4 man rush.

If your line is shit, you need to be a run heavy team and get the play action going.
Turner called maybe 4 good games.

[skinsfaninok]

In fairness to Scott, he never had a good QB here and it's not easy to put up 20 plus points a week with a QB2.. He tried to do some creative motion plays butwhen your QB is so limited it makes it tough. At teh end of the day they can interview anyone they want but nothing matters until Howell proves hes legit or we get a QB1

[Chief X_Phackter]

Give Turner a decent QB, an O-line that can block for him, and the experience he gained as the OC here - and I think he could end up being a good OC. I don't think he was terrible, and he was not exactly dealt a great hand here. He definitely made what I thought were some dumb play calls at times, but as some experts have also indicated, he did scheme guys open a lot. It was a mixed bag, and ultimately I agree that he had to go, but he was new at it and could be successful somewhere else.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

In fairness to Scott, he never had a good QB here and it's not easy to put up 20 plus points a week with a QB2.. He tried to do some creative motion plays butwhen your QB is so limited it makes it tough. At teh end of the day they can interview anyone they want but nothing matters until Howell proves hes legit or we get a QB1

I think even when you take into account the lack of a quarterback and a shit o line the dude still constantly tried to fit a square peg into a round hole.
We collectively said it all year, don’t overthink it Scott - run the ball Scott. That 4th down where he ran Samuel into the teeth of the defense was the final nail in his coffin.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

They kind of go hand and hand

That be like saying Scott not only couldn't the engine started but he couldn't make the car go forward either.

Ordinarily I'd agree - but Kyle Shanahan is 5-0 with the qb taken dead last in this year's draft.

Coaching plays a part. We all saw how he couldn't scheme to take advantage of a D's weaknesses - or use the run to setup play action. Good coaches adjust to the player's limitations. He couldn't do any of that. The writing was on the wall when 9 players complained how difficult his offense is.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Turner wasn't onboard with Wentz trade, can't say I blame him

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-...035409006.html

I'm pretty sure it's been reported before that the Wentz trade was Snyder's doing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm pretty sure it's been reported before that the Wentz trade was Snyder's doing.

It definitely was not Snyder. And I hate to stick up for him on anything but that is just not true. Sure he was on board w/ it but this was 100% Ron and Mayhew went along w/ it.

I don't even think Mayhew was all that excited about it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Ordinarily I'd agree - but Kyle Shanahan is 5-0 with the qb taken dead last in this year's draft.

Coaching plays a part. We all saw how he couldn't scheme to take advantage of a D's weaknesses - or use the run to setup play action. Good coaches adjust to the player's limitations. He couldn't do any of that. The writing was on the wall when 9 players complained how difficult his offense is.

It just goes to show what an elite coach Kyle is. He and John Lynch have done an outstanding job out there in SF.

[skinsfan69]

I felt w/ Scott he was never calling plays to set up other plays later in the game. Sometimes it looked like he would just close his eyes and call a play and go w/ it. He totally did not know how to use Samuel. That guy should have been in the slot and dominating in there w/ his quickness, instead you had him running up the middle doing dumb shit. I just didn't like the way he called the games.

But even then he did get guys open only to have Wentz throw the ball off target by 5 yards. Ron should be fired for that signing. Instead he scapegoated Scott.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Turner wasn't onboard with Wentz trade, can't say I blame him

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-...035409006.html

This is the scary part and another reason Ron should be fired soon as the new owner comes in.

Speaking of the quarterback position, last offseason, head coach Ron Rivera went all-in on Russell Wilson. Wilson chose the Denver Broncos, and Rivera should thank Wilson every day for not wanting to come to Washington.

Holy fuck.