When is Enough ,Enough?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't agree with the pardons/commutations, clearly done for 2 reasons
1) lay the groundwork for stone, flynn, and papadopoulos.

2) strategic for re-election. 3 major players in 3 democratic strongholds
Blago saying he is a Trumpocrat strikes into an urban base that is seeing minorities being used as pawns by the leading dem candidates
Dibartelo is a major player in california
Kerik is a nyc guy.
Trump wont win those states but i guarantee he wants desperately to win the popular vote AND electoral college vote for legacy purposes

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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say none of that was Trump's idea. It was more about who you know and/or how much money you are willing to donate.

Originally Posted by WaPo

“You know, oftentimes — pretty much all the time — I really rely on the recommendations of people that know them,” Trump told reporters as he prepared to board Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews. He was explaining why, and how, he’d just issued seven pardons and four commutations

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As he explained why he commuted former Democratic Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich’s sentence, Trump told reporters: “I watched his wife on television.”
Patti Blagojevich made at least seven appearances over the past two years on Fox News, appearing on the shows of Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham and Jeanine Pirro, to praise the president and plead for his mercy. (Blagojevich was also a contestant on Trump's show “The Celebrity Apprentice” in 2010.)

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The president said the 14-year prison sentence for Blagojevich, who was caught on a wiretap talking about trying to sell Barack Obama’s vacated Senate seat to the highest bidder, was “ridiculous.”
“It was a prosecution by the same people – Comey, Fitzpatrick – the same group,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday. Last year, Trump also falsely blamed Blagojevich’s treatment on “the Comey gang and all these sleazebags.”
In fact, however, former FBI director James Comey was in the private sector during Blagojevich’s prosecution. And “Fitzpatrick” seems to be a mistaken reference to Patrick Fitzgerald, who as U.S. attorney in Chicago did prosecute Blagojevich and is indeed good friends with Comey.

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“Paul Pogue, a construction company owner who pleaded guilty to underpaying his taxes by $473,000 and received three years probation, was issued a full pardon and clemency by the president,” the Daily Beast notes. “According to FEC filings, Pogue’s family has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars in direct contributions and in-kind air travel to the Trump Victory Committee. Beginning in August 2019, Ben Pogue—CEO of Pogue Construction and son of Paul Pogue—and his wife Ashleigh made over $200,000 in contributions to the campaign.
“In August alone, Ben Pogue donated $85,000 to Trump Victory while Ashleigh Pogue contributed $50,000 that month. The following month, Ben Pogue made an in-kind air travel contribution of $75,404.40. The couple also made several large donations to the Republican National Committee and each donated $5,600 to Donald Trump for President Inc. On the day of their first donation to the Trump campaign, Ashleigh posted an Instagram photo of her and her husband posing with Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, at the Hamptons.

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't agree with the pardons/commutations, clearly done for 2 reasons
1) lay the groundwork for stone, flynn, and papadopoulos.

2) strategic for re-election. 3 major players in 3 democratic strongholds
Blago saying he is a Trumpocrat strikes into an urban base that is seeing minorities being used as pawns by the leading dem candidates
Dibartelo is a major player in california
Kerik is a nyc guy.
Trump wont win those states but i guarantee he wants desperately to win the popular vote AND electoral college vote for legacy purposes

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Yea because ego should be the driving force behind our democracy. Enough is probably enough now. Close this thread. Lol.

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And on the heels of my rant about the wanna be dictator being a threat to our national security we give you Richard Grenell.....smooth move

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And on the heels of my rant about the wanna be dictator being a threat to our national security we give you Richard Grenell.....smooth move

ahhhh ,another FOX ex............................. hell of a qualification.

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Here we go again. Russia is interfering in our election because they are pro Trump. He hires a Trumpocrat to oversee the IC and is again irate about these accusations. Why are they pro Trump? Who knows. Either because he is compromised- I know fake news- or because he is weak. What we do know is why Trump is upset about the IC briefings. It makes him look illegitimate. So his ego is steering our ability to stop foreign interference. Danger to democracy? A resounding YES!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Here we go again. Russia is interfering in our election because they are pro Trump. He hires a Trumpocrat to oversee the IC and is again irate about these accusations. Why are they pro Trump? Who knows. Either because he is compromised- I know fake news- or because he is weak. What we do know is why Trump is upset about the IC briefings. It makes him look illegitimate. So his ego is steering our ability to stop foreign interference. Danger to democracy? A resounding YES!

yes but the trump sheep will wish it away like it's all made up BS .

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Originally Posted by Giantone

yes but the trump sheep will wish it away like it's all made up BS .

Mind numbing that the sheep take the word of Donald fuckin Trump over the Intelligence agencies. I mean at what point did he gain any semblance of credibility? Lol

[sdskinsfan2001]

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Here we go again. Russia is interfering in our election because they are pro Trump. He hires a Trumpocrat to oversee the IC and is again irate about these accusations. Why are they pro Trump? Who knows. Either because he is compromised- I know fake news- or because he is weak. What we do know is why Trump is upset about the IC briefings. It makes him look illegitimate. So his ego is steering our ability to stop foreign interference. Danger to democracy? A resounding YES!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...a77_story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/u...rs-russia.html

Russians helping the Bernie campaign.

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...a77_story.html



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/u...rs-russia.html



Russians helping the Bernie campaign.

Well maybe he is the preference if a Dem wins. That being said Bernie wouldn’t doubt the information if it came from the IA’s. Trump does for whatever reason. And if you read the article it seems to point to some sort of distraction or thinly veiled attempt to cover up their want for Trump to win actually. Good article

[sdskinsfan2001]

Russia doesn't give a fuck about us, nor should they. Gotta do what's best for them.

Discourse in America is apparently beneficial to them, so they'll try anything to do it.

Somehow we ignore all prior history with Russia and pretend like only since 2016 has Russia tried to be involved with our politics.

Cold War? Never heard of her.

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Russia doesn't give a fuck about us, nor should they. Gotta do what's best for them.



Discourse in America is apparently beneficial to them, so they'll try anything to do it.



Somehow we ignore all prior history with Russia and pretend like only since 2016 has Russia tried to be involved with our politics.



Cold War? Never heard of her.

The cold war was paranoia on both sides though and unlike it or any other alleged interference our President never publicly denounced it and certainly never took Putin or any other Russian Presidents word over his own IA’s. Well not until now.

[CRedskinsRule]

The only reason the Russians would prefer Trump over Sanders, Warren, Biden, or Buttegieg is because they understand how Democrats will continue their irrational coverages and be their "useful idiots" and throw doubt on the elections. Policy wise, as well as pure personality, Sanders would be the Russian choice by far.

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Wait so we are forgetting that they did this in 2016 before any coverage really began, and that Trump stood on the world stage n said it wasn’t Putin or gave them a foothold in the middle east? Why would Putin want the democrats to claim interference anyway? If he wanted that he could just come out and say yeah we interfered n there aint nothing you can do.

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Also if the IC is to be believed which they should be Trump was the mark in the republican race in 2016. The IC has said numerous times that Russia wants Trump. Im willing to call HIM a useful idiot and say he is simply worried about it casting illegitimacy on his election but I think it runs deeper.