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Old 09-12-2023, 02:56 PM   #136
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How about getting their starting RT instead? Oh wait, that is Becton and he hasn't exactly shined (although it was the other tackle that got roasted when Rodgers got hurt). Sigh -- would love to get some help on our leaky O-line, but that seems impossible now.
anyone worthwhile available to lure out of retirement? lol
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Old 09-12-2023, 04:24 PM   #137
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This. I think it's way too early to judge either way, but 2 at least average performances in 2 starts and 2 wins is a good start all things considered.

I think Dallas was above average but im probably splitting hairs because my sanity depends on Howell actually, finally, being a reliable quarterback.
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Old 09-12-2023, 04:25 PM   #138
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the pass protection was there, the line failed on the run.

SH holds the ball way too long.

By the end of this season either through injury or incompetent play; JB will get his shot.

I hope SH does well too but man I just don't see it yet.

JB has had plenty of shots. He isn’t good. Not as a starter. Sam would definitely have to get hurt for him to get another shot. With this oline that is entirely possible.
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I hope SH does well too but man I just don't see it yet.
LOL.

This is what? His 2nd start? We really here?
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Old 09-13-2023, 12:17 AM   #140
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LOL.

This is what? His 2nd start? We really here?
I said yet but you see all this greatness in two starts?

I bet this time next year this whole team will look different from the front office to the QB to the water boy

Everyone is on a prove it deal with the Harris group , unless you wow him you’re gone , he will want his people
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LOL.

This is what? His 2nd start? We really here?
Yeah as of now hes 2-0 as a starter and 2-0 at Home... It's been up and down but at least hes winning
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Old 09-13-2023, 08:44 AM   #142
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I said yet but you see all this greatness in two starts?

I bet this time next year this whole team will look different from the front office to the QB to the water boy

Everyone is on a prove it deal with the Harris group , unless you wow him you’re gone , he will want his people

I see a quarterback with two starts, two wins, who has had to learn two different offenses and plays behind a bad offensive line. Not sure what you are looking for? Arm strength? Has it. Accuracy? Has it. Mobility? Has it. Toughness? Has it. Poise? Has it.
The list of really good or great quarterbacks who weren’t on a trajectory towards the Hall of Fame after two games is as long as the list of quarterbacks who have ever started two games in the NFL. For you to already be betting that he isn’t our quarterback next year is crazy M. I hope to God Harris isn’t Snyder and has a little bit of patience.
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I said yet but you see all this greatness in two starts?

I bet this time next year this whole team will look different from the front office to the QB to the water boy

Everyone is on a prove it deal with the Harris group , unless you wow him you’re gone , he will want his people
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All we know after two starts with Sam is we need to see more.
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I see a quarterback with two starts, two wins, who has had to learn two different offenses and plays behind a bad offensive line. Not sure what you are looking for? Arm strength? Has it. Accuracy? Has it. Mobility? Has it. Toughness? Has it. Poise? Has it.
The list of really good or great quarterbacks who weren’t on a trajectory towards the Hall of Fame after two games is as long as the list of quarterbacks who have ever started two games in the NFL. For you to already be betting that he isn’t our quarterback next year is crazy M. I hope to God Harris isn’t Snyder and has a little bit of patience.
Not sure how the pro SH folks can see all the positive in just two starts but any concern or folks still on the fence about him can't possible know what they are talking about after just two starts.

I say his biggest positive to date is he isn't easily rattled; which is a great asset

I hope he works out but IMHO the Harris group isn't saying behind closed doors, check off QB1 we are all set there
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Not sure how the pro SH folks can see all the positive in just two starts but any concern or folks still on the fence about him can't possible know what they are talking about after just two starts.

I say his biggest positive to date is he isn't easily rattled; which is a great asset

I hope he works out but IMHO the Harris group isn't saying behind closed doors, check off QB1 we are all set there

Of course they aren’t. That would be foolish. Always have to keep options open for any player/position.

The positives i see are just what i listed. Arm strength, accuracy, poise, mobility, toughness. He has shown us all that. It has to be consistent of course, and that remains to be seen. Just saying that after 2 starts I’ve seen enough to think that we could be on to something. Taylor Heinekie had zero arm strength. Carson Wentz had zero mobility. That was obvious. There is no obvious weakness to what I see with Sam. He just needs to hone his skills but that isn’t a weakness it is something any rookie quarterback needs to do. Even the greatest ones had to do that.
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Of course they aren’t. That would be foolish. Always have to keep options open for any player/position.

The positives i see are just what i listed. Arm strength, accuracy, poise, mobility, toughness. He has shown us all that. It has to be consistent of course, and that remains to be seen. Just saying that after 2 starts I’ve seen enough to think that we could be on to something. Taylor Heinekie had zero arm strength. Carson Wentz had zero mobility. That was obvious. There is no obvious weakness to what I see with Sam. He just needs to hone his skills but that isn’t a weakness it is something any rookie quarterback needs to do. Even the greatest ones had to do that.
his most obvious weakness is the speed of his progressions and holding the ball to long especially with a sus line
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his most obvious weakness is the speed of his progressions and holding the ball to long especially with a sus line

Both extremely coachable and fixable unlike arm strength etc.
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I really think every one on this board should be required to liste to Keim before making any outlandish remarks (and that's me included).

On a serious note, it is good to see that a lot of the issues with both Sam and the offensive line are fixable. For the o-line, it is having more experience working together, and for Sam it is fixing those little mistake and not repeat them (as you punch said, all coachable).
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