Haynesworth fails conditioning test

GusFrerotte · 07-29-2010, 07:54 PM

Shanny might just use this as his excuse to cut him or like someone said recoup some of the money back if this violates his contract. Maybe AH flunked it on purpose to get his fat arse out of DC somehow.

mooby · 07-29-2010, 08:06 PM

I think I'm feeling multiple reasons for this.

I think I agree with the reasoning that even if Big Al had finished the third 300 yard shuttle, Shanny would've made him run a fourth. This was pretty much about Shanny enforcing a point, that he's the coach and he's in charge. But there may have been sub-motivations in play here too. Like maybe this was also Shanny's way of trying to clear any negative air the rest of the players might've had towards Haynesworth, as was previously mentioned in this thread. Once the players see a slimmer Haynesworth than they saw last year, and they know he came in early and still tried to pass the test they are more likely to accept him back into the locker room. I doubt he fails again tomorrow, simply because Shanny doesn't want him missing too many practice days because of how many he's missed already this year. I wouldn't be suprised if he only had to run 2 300 yard shuttles tomorrow, and since he was able to do it today he'll probably be able to do it tomorrow.

Either way this isn't that big of an issue, by all accounts players are saying that he looks better than he did at this point last year and this is probably more about Shanny putting the foot down than about how out of shape Haynesworth is (I don't believe he's out of shape either, he's probably in great shape for a DE/DT.)

tryfuhl · 07-29-2010, 08:22 PM

video from tail end of his drills and then fan reactions to him

Haynesworth Will Attempt Test Friday

tootergray34 · 07-29-2010, 10:12 PM

wow, no wonder AH wants out.....I hate seeing those fans boo him. Even if I don't like AH...i'd never boo a human being for not signing an auto or two. i'm sure it'd be like this everywhere...well except Detroit...they don't have fans.

dgack · 07-29-2010, 10:27 PM

Anyone who is complaining about the way Shanny is going about this must have been cool with the way the inmates ran the asylum during Zorn's tenure. I really don't get it.

Does anyone think a guy like Belichick or Parcells would allow a player to pull the kind of crap that Albert has pulled and not run until they puked or crapped their pants? How about Lombardi or Halas?

Is Shanny's ego massive and potentially a huge liability? Absolutely. Just like nearly every other coach with SB rings (with the rare exception of a few guys, Gibbs included). That doesn't change the fact that there must be discipline, order, and an understanding of the consequences of crossing the line.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 07-29-2010, 10:38 PM

I do not like the fans booing the guy, but I can understand thier frustration with a guy making so much cash and speaking against the company that paid him that much.

As far as some of the other comments, this is Mike's team and he can do damn well as he pleases.

AH will get his but in gear and this will all die down. I also read a couple of comments from the coach stating that he and AH did not have any ill intended words and that AH was first class in the way he handledthe situation. I hope this dies down soon and we can move forward as the Washington Redskins not "The Mike Shanahan and Albert Haynesworth Show".

MTK · 07-30-2010, 12:22 AM

Drama Queen Florio is of course having a field day with this

Shanahan admits only Haynesworth was required to take conditioning test | ProFootballTalk.com

mooby · 07-30-2010, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Drama Queen Florio is of course having a field day with this

Shanahan admits only Haynesworth was required to take conditioning test | ProFootballTalk.com

This may seem weird but I could totally see Mike Florio sitting at his laptop getting ready to post this article on PFT, sitting there cackling and saying, "ahahaha, me, little mike florio, destroyer of all that is good for the nfl, getting ready to once again crush my arch enemy dan snyders' hopes of a good season with one article."

Ruhskins · 07-30-2010, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

This may seem weird but I could totally see Mike Florio sitting at his laptop getting ready to post this article on PFT, sitting there cackling and saying, "ahahaha, me, little mike florio, destroyer of all that is good for the nfl, getting ready to once again crush my arch enemy dan snyders' hopes of a good season with one article."

Is like does this ****er even like football? All he does is attack teams and report outlandish shit, or just enjoys reporting bad news. I wish Goodell would ban him from the NFL or something like that.

Dlyne8r · 07-30-2010, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Drama Queen Florio is of course having a field day with this

Shanahan admits only Haynesworth was required to take conditioning test | ProFootballTalk.com

Yeah, the same ass-wipe that predicted the 'Skins would make it to the Super Bowl last year. Damn, wish he'd been right about something for that one time.

GusFrerotte · 07-30-2010, 01:17 AM

The saga continues. Either way, if it is true only AH had to take the physical, it could mean Shanny is looking for any excuse to try and cut him and maybe get some of that money back for Danny. It could also mean the Shanny doesn't want to start AH as punishment to show AH who is in charge. Either way it is going to play out with AH shaping up or shipping out. To me we can't really lose all that much. Snyder just eats a helluva a lot of mullah though.

GusFrerotte · 07-30-2010, 01:20 AM

It also can just mean AH still has an attitude and doesn't give a damn since he is still getting paid or he is just a big liar about staying in shape. Like I said before, the saga continues.

Ruhskins · 07-30-2010, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It also can just mean AH still has an attitude and doesn't give a damn since he is still getting paid or he is just a big liar about staying in shape. Like I said before, the saga continues.

The whole thing is a big ego contest. AH did it by not showing up to OTAs, and now it's Shanny's turn. Once they get over this all of this will pass. Don't think there's anything more than that.

CRedskinsRule · 07-30-2010, 08:55 AM

CindyBoren

RT @RickMaese: Did he visit restroom beforehand?? RT @Mitch_Tischler: Haynesworth taking conditioning test now #Redskins 29 minutes ago via UberTwitter

touche!

CRedskinsRule · 07-30-2010, 09:15 AM

I guess I'm not buying the Shanahan would have failed him no matter what either. BUT, nor was he going to pass him just because he got 21Mill in Apr. Shanahan laid out a standard. Was it nit picky on purpose, yes. But the point is made, both to AH, and to the rest of the team, that there is a stated standard of execution and excellence that everybody must meet to be considered a Washington Redskin.
For the players that showed up all off-season, they see that it paid off, both physically and in terms of team esprit de corps; and for AH, it should get him acclimated to Shanahan's bottomline.

I tend to believe that AH felt he did so well on the first that he proved himself, but the rules of the breaks were just guidelines. I am guessing he sees that slightly differently now.

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07-29-2010, 07:54 PM	#1
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test Shanny might just use this as his excuse to cut him or like someone said recoup some of the money back if this violates his contract. Maybe AH flunked it on purpose to get his fat arse out of DC somehow.

07-29-2010, 08:06 PM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,582	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test I think I'm feeling multiple reasons for this. I think I agree with the reasoning that even if Big Al had finished the third 300 yard shuttle, Shanny would've made him run a fourth. This was pretty much about Shanny enforcing a point, that he's the coach and he's in charge. But there may have been sub-motivations in play here too. Like maybe this was also Shanny's way of trying to clear any negative air the rest of the players might've had towards Haynesworth, as was previously mentioned in this thread. Once the players see a slimmer Haynesworth than they saw last year, and they know he came in early and still tried to pass the test they are more likely to accept him back into the locker room. I doubt he fails again tomorrow, simply because Shanny doesn't want him missing too many practice days because of how many he's missed already this year. I wouldn't be suprised if he only had to run 2 300 yard shuttles tomorrow, and since he was able to do it today he'll probably be able to do it tomorrow. Either way this isn't that big of an issue, by all accounts players are saying that he looks better than he did at this point last year and this is probably more about Shanny putting the foot down than about how out of shape Haynesworth is (I don't believe he's out of shape either, he's probably in great shape for a DE/DT.)

07-29-2010, 08:22 PM	#3
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 42 Posts: 12,514	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test video from tail end of his drills and then fan reactions to him Haynesworth Will Attempt Test Friday

07-29-2010, 10:12 PM	#4
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test wow, no wonder AH wants out.....I hate seeing those fans boo him. Even if I don't like AH...i'd never boo a human being for not signing an auto or two. i'm sure it'd be like this everywhere...well except Detroit...they don't have fans. __________________ ---HAIL!!!---

07-29-2010, 10:27 PM	#5
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test Anyone who is complaining about the way Shanny is going about this must have been cool with the way the inmates ran the asylum during Zorn's tenure. I really don't get it. Does anyone think a guy like Belichick or Parcells would allow a player to pull the kind of crap that Albert has pulled and not run until they puked or crapped their pants? How about Lombardi or Halas? Is Shanny's ego massive and potentially a huge liability? Absolutely. Just like nearly every other coach with SB rings (with the rare exception of a few guys, Gibbs included). That doesn't change the fact that there must be discipline, order, and an understanding of the consequences of crossing the line. __________________ "To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

07-29-2010, 10:38 PM	#6
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test I do not like the fans booing the guy, but I can understand thier frustration with a guy making so much cash and speaking against the company that paid him that much. As far as some of the other comments, this is Mike's team and he can do damn well as he pleases. AH will get his but in gear and this will all die down. I also read a couple of comments from the coach stating that he and AH did not have any ill intended words and that AH was first class in the way he handledthe situation. I hope this dies down soon and we can move forward as the Washington Redskins not "The Mike Shanahan and Albert Haynesworth Show". __________________ Just win.

07-30-2010, 12:22 AM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test Drama Queen Florio is of course having a field day with this Shanahan admits only Haynesworth was required to take conditioning test \| ProFootballTalk.com __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-30-2010, 01:17 AM	#11
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test The saga continues. Either way, if it is true only AH had to take the physical, it could mean Shanny is looking for any excuse to try and cut him and maybe get some of that money back for Danny. It could also mean the Shanny doesn't want to start AH as punishment to show AH who is in charge. Either way it is going to play out with AH shaping up or shipping out. To me we can't really lose all that much. Snyder just eats a helluva a lot of mullah though.

07-30-2010, 01:20 AM	#12
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test It also can just mean AH still has an attitude and doesn't give a damn since he is still getting paid or he is just a big liar about staying in shape. Like I said before, the saga continues.

07-30-2010, 08:55 AM	#14
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,714	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test CindyBoren RT @RickMaese: Did he visit restroom beforehand?? RT @Mitch_Tischler: Haynesworth taking conditioning test now #Redskins 29 minutes ago via UberTwitter touche!

07-30-2010, 09:15 AM	#15
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,714	Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test I guess I'm not buying the Shanahan would have failed him no matter what either. BUT, nor was he going to pass him just because he got 21Mill in Apr. Shanahan laid out a standard. Was it nit picky on purpose, yes. But the point is made, both to AH, and to the rest of the team, that there is a stated standard of execution and excellence that everybody must meet to be considered a Washington Redskin. For the players that showed up all off-season, they see that it paid off, both physically and in terms of team esprit de corps; and for AH, it should get him acclimated to Shanahan's bottomline. I tend to believe that AH felt he did so well on the first that he proved himself, but the rules of the breaks were just guidelines. I am guessing he sees that slightly differently now.

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