Coronavirus (political)

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Really who cares?

.............evidently you do.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

New York, New Jersey, Michigan, California did everything perfect? But a dishonest media to cherry pick simply based on political position is expected I guess. De Blasio had the kids in school in mid march

Do you find it great that the media is high fiving that people are getting sick simply based on politics? When I look at the maps of infections and death rates should I be celebrating the deaths in Democratic run areas? What country do I live in, seriously

..........triggered.

[Chico23231]

Dude, first off that pork plant would not have been affected by the shelter in place order...so whether the governor ordered it or not, the plant would have been open. That’s the operators call....nowhere in that article does that address that yuuuuuge fact. It’s a dishonest piece of reporting. It’s cherry picking

[MTK]

No state has done things "perfectly", but clearly some have and continue to drop the ball more than others. Why is that a crime to point out? Florida had beaches full of people when other states were shutting down. Wrastling is deemed essential?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

No state has done things "perfectly", but clearly some have and continue to drop the ball more than others. Why is that a crime to point out? Florida had beaches full of people when other states were shutting down. Wrastling is deemed essential?

Lol..wrastling..def not essential for me

“The order that was signed on Thursday states that employees at professional sports and media production with a national audience can continue only if the location is closed to the general public. This essential service was added because it is critical to Florida's economy.”

The order applies to other companies and organizations, not just WWE. If closed to the public and doing it due diligence... You know what’s the big deal?

I think the beaches shoulda been closed to spring breakers though, that was dumb, but the young folks not only traveled to beaches, they traveled overseas to Europe, they traveled to NYC, they traveled all over the country...they made choice, parents didn’t step in...the ones who paid for most of them. Bad decisions abound.

I know in this area, some of first people who tested positive was a senior came from Florida and spread it to a retirement home where it’s killed like 40 there, the First person who tested in my county where I was born was a college student who went to Europe spring break and the first police officer who test positive traveled to NYC and brought it back. People made choices

[SolidSnake84]

It would appear at least so far, that the individual states so far who have launched their own task forces / groups dedicated to re-opening their states for business seem to be politically divided. It appears that Republican ran states are eager to re-open again and are waiting for guidance / advice from the federal gov't / CDC, etc...

Democrat controlled states seem to be pushing back and trying to stay shut down as long as possible. Take Ralph Northam for example, whose June 10th order is currently the longest in the USA.

So it looks like there is going to be a big fight once again between Republicans and Democrats. This is one time that I hope the republicans win because i'm not sure how anyone thinks something good can come out of people being out of work until the end of the year / through next year, etc...

[Buffalo Bob]

There have been atrocious acts on both sides of the aisle. What about the governor of Rhode Island turning the national guard and police on out of state tourists? What about the governor of California spreading panic saying 25 million Californians would get sick? Obviously Trump is the worst of them all, it seems now he believes he can appoint himself dictator.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It would appear at least so far, that the individual states so far who have launched their own task forces / groups dedicated to re-opening their states for business seem to be politically divided. It appears that Republican ran states are eager to re-open again and are waiting for guidance / advice from the federal gov't / CDC, etc...

Democrat controlled states seem to be pushing back and trying to stay shut down as long as possible. Take Ralph Northam for example, whose June 10th order is currently the longest in the USA.

So it looks like there is going to be a big fight once again between Republicans and Democrats. This is one time that I hope the republicans win because i'm not sure how anyone thinks something good can come out of people being out of work until the end of the year / through next year, etc...

It’s not about one side winning or losing, its about coming together to get rid of this terrible Wuhan virus...and then opening parts of the country up to get back to normal life. Different ways to do that based on different affected regions.

We will beat this...but I think the more data we get, we are gonna find millions and millions had this extremely highly contagious virus and never showed a symptom.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It would appear at least so far, that the individual states so far who have launched their own task forces / groups dedicated to re-opening their states for business seem to be politically divided. It appears that Republican ran states are eager to re-open again and are waiting for guidance / advice from the federal gov't / CDC, etc...

Democrat controlled states seem to be pushing back and trying to stay shut down as long as possible. Take Ralph Northam for example, whose June 10th order is currently the longest in the USA.

So it looks like there is going to be a big fight once again between Republicans and Democrats. This is one time that I hope the republicans win because i'm not sure how anyone thinks something good can come out of people being out of work until the end of the year / through next year, etc...

Who has said anything about people being out of work for the rest of this year or into next year?

There's a fine line with no black or white answer as far as how to restart the economy while also trying to keep thousands more from dying.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by MTK

Who has said anything about people being out of work for the rest of this year or into next year?

There's a fine line with no black or white answer as far as how to restart the economy while also trying to keep thousands more from dying.

Neel Kashkari - says that America should be shutdown between 18 and 24 more months...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Neel Kashkari - says that America should be shutdown between 18 and 24 more months...

Let's dive into what he said exactly...

Kashkari, while acknowledging the downside of what a prolonged shutdown could mean for the economy, said the U.S., “barring some health-care miracle,” is looking at an 18-month strategy of rolling shutdowns based on what has happened in other countries.

“We could have these waves of flare-ups, controls, flare-ups and controls, until we actually get a therapy or a vaccine,” he said. “We need to find ways of getting the people who are healthy, who are at lower risk, back to work and then providing the assistance to those who are most at risk, who are going to need to be quarantined or isolated for the foreseeable future.”

No argument there, multiple waves of this are expected, although the hope is they lessen in severity each time and with a flattened curve hospitals won't be overwhelmed.

“This could be a long, hard road that we have ahead of us until we get to either an effective therapy or a vaccine,” he said. “It’s hard for me to see a V-shaped recovery under that scenario.”

Again, common sense. Until there are effective treatments and ultimately a vaccine the virus isn't going to disappear on it's own. But we're still finding out that more people than previously thought are asymptomatic so we don't truly know how deadly it is. It very well still could be a severe flu in comparison.

He's not saying the entire country should remain locked down for 18-24 months, just that the rolling stops and starts could extend that long.

[Giantone]

IMO, you can't keep pushing the food chain workers or Hospital workers like has been happening . once this takes over in there ,yes there will be absolute panic and then what? I realise this is important please make no mistake but the Country can not go into lock down Marshal law and that is what some are preaching .

[skinsfan69]

This may sound ignorant but what are we supposed to do? Wait a year or two for a vaccine to come out and bankrupt the country and ourselves because less than 1% of the people (most w/ serious underlying conditions) are at risk? I'm sorry but that doesn't sit well w/ me.

It's time to get back to a normal life, open up the economy imo. The people who have underlying conditions stay the hell home, work from home, wait it out and keep your distance.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This may sound ignorant but what are we supposed to do? Wait a year or two for a vaccine to come out and bankrupt the country and ourselves because less than 1% of the people (most w/ serious underlying conditions) are at risk? I'm sorry but that doesn't sit well w/ me.



It's time to get back to a normal life, open up the economy imo. The people who have underlying conditions stay the hell home, work from home, wait it out and keep your distance.

34 states have less than 200 deaths.

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This may sound ignorant but what are we supposed to do? Wait a year or two for a vaccine to come out and bankrupt the country and ourselves because less than 1% of the people (most w/ serious underlying conditions) are at risk? I'm sorry but that doesn't sit well w/ me.

It's time to get back to a normal life, open up the economy imo. The people who have underlying conditions stay the hell home, work from home, wait it out and keep your distance.

Well yeah, that’s the direction we’re headed in, not as easy at it sounds though depending on where you live


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