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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
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The Starter
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
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All that matters this year is whether or not we found our franchise QB. The O line is plenty good. It may not be the best in the league, but Beck and Rex were hardly running for their lives last year and we ran the ball well, especially late in the season when our backups were playing. RG3 will have every opportunity to succeed.
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Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2005
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And actually there are some old school safeties that are rated still as the greatest of all time. Problem with every greatest poll is people vote according to what they have seen in their lifetime. Even 80 greatest redskins. I love lavar but please. Over our long history he is not one of the 80 greatest.
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Fire Bruce NOW
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
Now there's a smart comment. Ken Houston kicked ass. I'll never forget his tackle of Walt Garrison just short of the goal line, thus preserving a victory over Dall-ass.
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Playmaker
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The Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
I'm not surprised -- Shanahan has been a huge disappointment as a coach (11W 21L, two straight last place finishes in the NFC East, and 0-3 on QBs not counting RG3). Aside from Trent Williams he has done nothing for the OL, not developed a decent run game, and has a secondary that was shredded by Jay Cutler and Andrew Luck in back to back games.
This is venting to some extent but the Redskins finished 12th in the league in Passing yards allowed and 13th in overall defense. Not spectacular but pretty decent for an otherwise shitty team -- so of course he took one of the few strengths and made it a glaring weakness.
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville, Forida
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
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On this team, which is weak at the CB position, moving Hall inside only exposes another corner who can't cover on the outside. I think the Skins are in need of one more capable NFL CB to shore up the defensive secondary. |
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Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
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His predecessors Zorn and Vinny, inherited a team that was built by Gibbs, breakeven W/L but was making the playoffs every other year. Shanny inherited a team built by Vinny, a team that fell apart halfway thru year 1 and never recovered the next year like Gibbs' teams did. Shanny dumped Jason Campbell and Stephon Heyer. That's two pretty good upgrades bringing in anyone decent. I think Luck did worse against our secondary than others (due to our pass rush, sure). But the biggest problem with our secondary getting worse was Carlos getting an attitude and leaving and Springs/Smoot getting old. Shanny's trying to upgrade those positions but he's rightfully concentrating on our lines more. We've had a lot more draft picks and transition on OL than Vinny, for a new ZBS that takes time. And look at our front on D. |
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Impact Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
Remember when Shanny had no choice but to roster Joey Galloway? Or when Lorenzo Alexander had to start? Or when our offensive line was full of aging broken down vets?
Shanny hasn't only created depth at every position (outside of the corners), he's managed to bring in one of the better QB prospects we've ever seen. It's refreshing to see a slow and methodical approach from our GM/Coach.
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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
Some posts are so moronic they don't deserve any response...and I think we have a winner in this thread
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Quietly Dominating the East
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
To that eventuality.....I offer no response.
or the horse he road in on..
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Look, sometimes with fans the optimism overlooks reality -- but after reading this post, it's clear you got up on the wrong side of the bed. I just hope you remember this post next year when we're competing deep in the playoffs. 1) Records mean nothing, we were rebuilding the past two years. Honestly I'm glad we finished poorly last year -- to grab RG3. Evaluating Shanahan will only come in 2 years --> if RG3 succeeds, we will be good for 10-15 years. 2) Our O-line was one of the oldest in the league, you can't replace it overnight & convert to a zone blocking scheme. I think I saw a stat that we've drafted the most O-linemen over the past 2-3 years. Still deficient but I think they'll surprise this year if healthy. Last game Morris ran for 100 yards & RG3 had no sacks -- against a poor D, but hard to complain. Our depth seems stronger than in past. Remember Rhinehart? Heyer? 3) Yes, our secondary sucks, Cutler killed us and Luck exposed us. We will likely struggle in pass D this year. Raheem Morris could help, but I hope we can pick up a shut down corner to a back loaded contract next year and draft young talent. Talib could be a high risk-high reward acquisition. If Crawford & Chase have as much talent as hype they'll help as well as depth. Honestly, we're not there yet, but with RG3 I think for the first time over the past 15-20 years, I have real hope for the future. Hope he proves my trust in him. |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Secondary a Primary Concern
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Much of the post was simple and undeniable fact e.g. Mike has produced two last place finishes, and that is the bottom line in pro football, winning. We all hope this is the year things turnaround.
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