Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

[mlmpetert]

Completely agree FPRLG.

I think a likely outcome to this debate is that we get rid of state sponsored marriage altogether and let it become purely a ceremonial title (as it should be imo). The only thing state sponsored should be a contract that grants certain rights from one person to another/others.

It would be interesting to know when and why marriage law first came to be in the US. My guess would be state sponsored marriage is purely tax code related.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yeah I think it is dangerous to project the leanings of your own community of friends and associates out into the general public. I believe it is a main reason that such divisiveness exists. I think there are about as many people opposed to same-sex marriage as are for it. It is definitely a younger crowd that favors it but one thing to remember is that as you age your values adjust. Just because you believe it now doesn't mean that will be so in 20 or 30 years.

I don't like the concept of state-sponsored same-sex marriage. I don't like the concept of state-sponsored marriage in general. If we allow the state to sponsor "traditional" marriage then we should let the state sponsor just "marriage" meaning any two humans can marry. But why stop there? Why can only two people get married? Why not 3 or 4 or 50? I just have a fundamental problem with the state endorsing and granting rights for life-style choices. The government has no business doing that. Marriage should be a religious/societal thing only. The question is how do we extricate the concept of legal marriage from our society?

some good points made here. but, i can honestly state that i will always believe in equal rights. as for the 3 or 4 or 50, i don't think that should even be addressed until we all have equal rights

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by los panda

some good points made here. but, i can honestly state that i will always believe in equal rights. as for the 3 or 4 or 50, i don't think that should even be addressed until we all have equal rights

Well i guess equal rights for hetros and homos. But screw the polygamists, who cares about their rights..... Filthy poly with their no morals. They have no place in our society!!! What they do is disgusting!!!!

[los panda]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Well i guess equal rights for hetros and homos. But screw the polygamists, who cares about their rights..... Filthy poly with their no morals. They have no place in our society!!! What they do is disgusting!!!!

until everyone has the right to have one marriage, we shouldn't worry about giving everyone the right to multiple marriages. i'm not a mathematician, but i don't believe 3 = 0, 4 = 0, or 50 = 0. i believe that 1 = 1, 3 = 3, 4 = 4, and 50 = 50. please correct my math if i'm mistaken

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by los panda

until everyone has the right to have one marriage, we shouldn't worry about giving everyone the right to multiple marriages. i'm not a mathematician, but i don't believe 3 = 0, 4 = 0, or 50 = 0. i believe that 1 = 1, 3 = 3, 4 = 4, and 50 = 50. please correct my math if i'm mistaken

You know youre using the exact same argument "traditional marriage" proponents use:

“Everyone has the right to marry someone of the opposite gender. It youre a gay man you can still marry a women. If you’re a lesbian you can still marry a man. Everyone has the same rights. There are; however, no special rights for lifestyles, for either gay or straight people.”

Im with you, I fully support gay marriage. But I also support a person’s right to marry multiple persons. It’s the same thing. I don’t like the idea of the government endorsing or opposing lifestyle decisions for straight people, gay people, or polygamist. If all parties have the capacity to be a willing and agreeing partner our government shouldn’t restrict them.

[TheSmurfs22]

I am politically pretty conservative on most issues like economics, the size of government, protection our national security, but when it comes to SSM I honestly could care less. I have several friends who are gay and I say more power to them. It is just not something that concerns me. Lots of other things to be worked up over in my humble opinion.

[tryfuhl]

[los panda]

that's awesome

[los panda]

i can dig it. to rephrase, i believe everyone should have the right to marry the one they love before we approach the topic of everyone having the right to marry the ones the love.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by los panda

i can dig it. to rephrase, i believe everyone should have the right to marry the one they love before we approach the topic of everyone having the right to marry the ones they love.

oops

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by los panda

i can dig it. to rephrase, i believe everyone should have the right to marry the one they love before we approach the topic of everyone having the right to marry the ones the love.

Gays can get married anytime they want and there is nothing anyone can do about that.

[skinsguy]

I think state sponsored marriage is unconstitutional anyway.

[Alvin Walton]

There's lunch and car parking going on in the shaving thread.

[los panda]

tax breaks