Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce

Schneed10 · 03-04-2005, 11:34 AM

It makes no sense to overpay for a CB just because everyone else in the league is overpaying for free agent CBs. Ken Lucas gets $13 million, Anthony Henry gets $10 million, so therefore that means we SHOULD pay Smoot $14 million?

While I agree that Smoot is better than Lucas or Henry, that doesn't mean you necessarily pay up to get him. It's true that the market drives prices, and because of Lucas and Henry, I'm sure Smoot will command $14 million. By paying the market price for Smoot we would be acknowledging that we think the market is fairly valued for free agent CBs.

Do you really think that's the case? Every columnist talks about how teams have more cap room this year than ever before, and the free agent talent is so much thinner than ever before. If the supply of cap dollars is up, and the supply of free agent talent is down, then the price if those free agents skyrockets as teams figure "well, we've got all this cap room, might as well use it."

Problem is we don't have tons of cap room. And even if we did, paying the market rate for a free agent CB doesn't make it a smart way to spend cap dollars.

What would you rather have, Walt Harris at $1.5 million against the cap, or Smoot at $4.5 million against the cap? I'd take Harris. I don't think Smoot is 3 times better than Harris.

Redskins_P · 03-04-2005, 11:59 AM

I think Marshall will do just fine at MLB. He already knows the system, and last year he proved that he can play at a high level.

dirtbag2112 · 03-04-2005, 12:26 PM

Let the young guys step up and play. The only way they'll get good is by being on the field.

diehardskin2982 · 03-04-2005, 02:02 PM

we'll sign someone, trust in gibbs. The report is from the times who, they're not known for great quality reporting.

davy · 03-04-2005, 02:23 PM

What really sucks about losing Pierce is it needn't have happened if somebody had spotted his ability and we had given him more than a 1 year contract last year.

I remember Marty Schottenheimer saying he loved him from day one, shame nobody on the current staff felt the same way.

jdlea · 03-04-2005, 03:12 PM

I don't really think we lost out as much as every says by Pierce going to the Giants. I think he is a good player with mediocre talent, but excellent instinct. He always seems to be in the right place, but I just don't see him being worth 25 mil over 6 or whatever they gave him. He only had one good year and it was a contract year. He did play well when he was a rookie, though, right before we picked up Jesse Armstead. I think we'll be fine without him, though. I don't think he's particularly impressive.

MTK · 03-04-2005, 03:10 PM

Problem is nobody saw this coming from Pierce. If Barrow didn't get hurt Pierce wouldn't have had the same opportunity. You can't lock up your reserves long term, you need that money for your stars.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Problem is nobody saw this coming from Pierce. If Barrow didn't get hurt Pierce wouldn't have had the same opportunity. You can't lock up your reserves long term, you need that money for your stars.

Couldn't agree more. Ohh, the experts love to hate us.

mooby · 03-05-2005, 12:44 PM

well michael barrow should retire. i wouldn't want a 35 year old playing middle linebacker. he's missed a full season. we should release him. i guess we're just gonna have to experiment with lemar marshall.

Daseal · 03-05-2005, 12:46 PM

If we release him we take the cap hit all at once, I believe. This could cause problems. Just a year ago Barrow could play - let's give him that chance again. If his knee isn't healthy we'll be fine. Marshall played great at OLB. If he can't do the job we'll get someone in the draft (Brooks would be nice, but may command a really high pick and will be expensive.)

03-04-2005, 11:34 AM	#1
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce It makes no sense to overpay for a CB just because everyone else in the league is overpaying for free agent CBs. Ken Lucas gets $13 million, Anthony Henry gets $10 million, so therefore that means we SHOULD pay Smoot $14 million? While I agree that Smoot is better than Lucas or Henry, that doesn't mean you necessarily pay up to get him. It's true that the market drives prices, and because of Lucas and Henry, I'm sure Smoot will command $14 million. By paying the market price for Smoot we would be acknowledging that we think the market is fairly valued for free agent CBs. Do you really think that's the case? Every columnist talks about how teams have more cap room this year than ever before, and the free agent talent is so much thinner than ever before. If the supply of cap dollars is up, and the supply of free agent talent is down, then the price if those free agents skyrockets as teams figure "well, we've got all this cap room, might as well use it." Problem is we don't have tons of cap room. And even if we did, paying the market rate for a free agent CB doesn't make it a smart way to spend cap dollars. What would you rather have, Walt Harris at $1.5 million against the cap, or Smoot at $4.5 million against the cap? I'd take Harris. I don't think Smoot is 3 times better than Harris.

03-04-2005, 11:59 AM	#2
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce I think Marshall will do just fine at MLB. He already knows the system, and last year he proved that he can play at a high level.

03-04-2005, 12:26 PM	#3
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce Let the young guys step up and play. The only way they'll get good is by being on the field.

03-04-2005, 02:02 PM	#4
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce we'll sign someone, trust in gibbs. The report is from the times who, they're not known for great quality reporting. __________________ That got ugly fast

03-04-2005, 02:23 PM	#5
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 962	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce What really sucks about losing Pierce is it needn't have happened if somebody had spotted his ability and we had given him more than a 1 year contract last year. I remember Marty Schottenheimer saying he loved him from day one, shame nobody on the current staff felt the same way.

03-04-2005, 03:12 PM	#6
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce I don't really think we lost out as much as every says by Pierce going to the Giants. I think he is a good player with mediocre talent, but excellent instinct. He always seems to be in the right place, but I just don't see him being worth 25 mil over 6 or whatever they gave him. He only had one good year and it was a contract year. He did play well when he was a rookie, though, right before we picked up Jesse Armstead. I think we'll be fine without him, though. I don't think he's particularly impressive.

03-04-2005, 03:10 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce Problem is nobody saw this coming from Pierce. If Barrow didn't get hurt Pierce wouldn't have had the same opportunity. You can't lock up your reserves long term, you need that money for your stars. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-05-2005, 12:44 PM	#9
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,582	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce well michael barrow should retire. i wouldn't want a 35 year old playing middle linebacker. he's missed a full season. we should release him. i guess we're just gonna have to experiment with lemar marshall. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-05-2005, 12:46 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Marshall tabbed to replace Pierce If we release him we take the cap hit all at once, I believe. This could cause problems. Just a year ago Barrow could play - let's give him that chance again. If his knee isn't healthy we'll be fine. Marshall played great at OLB. If he can't do the job we'll get someone in the draft (Brooks would be nice, but may command a really high pick and will be expensive.)

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