Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant

Pocket$ $traight · 03-23-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

I would say we certainly aren't pigeonholed into a pick now. That being said, we will probably take the safety... ;-)

MTK · 03-23-2010, 11:17 AM

Good stuff. Allen is working his magic already.

Daseal · 03-23-2010, 11:55 AM

Sounds like Eric Schaffer is still the best in the business at massaging the cap.

warpaint · 03-23-2010, 12:05 PM

This is good to hear. I was thinking we were missing a great oppurtunity to use this uncapped year.

Daseal · 03-23-2010, 12:20 PM

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So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

Am I incorrect in thinking Suh/McCoy would be square pegs in a round hole for the 3-4? I think AH will fit well (and actually like) a 3-4 DE. It's being an NT that really seems to upset/not fit Haynesworth.

Smoot -- any thoughts on if Mt. Cody will still be around in the 2nd round for us? He'd be a great 1-2 punch with Keamantu to rotate NTs.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Am I incorrect in thinking Suh/McCoy would be square pegs in a round hole for the 3-4? I think AH will fit well (and actually like) a 3-4 DE. It's being an NT that really seems to upset/not fit Haynesworth.

Smoot -- any thoughts on if Mt. Cody will still be around in the 2nd round for us? He'd be a great 1-2 punch with Keamantu to rotate NTs.

Yeah I think he'll be there, and if we traded down in the first we could also possibly look at Dan Williams. I don't know that I would but it's possible

Daseal · 03-23-2010, 12:27 PM

Tim Teebow. That would learn em'.

steveo395 · 03-23-2010, 12:47 PM

Damn I was waiting to hear about the Redskins doing something like this. I don't care what anyone says, they Redskins are by far the best at managing the cap. Now we should have tons of cap room if the cap ever does come back.

Redskins_P · 03-23-2010, 01:12 PM

Effing genius. What a great read!

Can we trade Haynesworth tomorrow?

CRedskinsRule · 03-23-2010, 01:25 PM

Very good analysis, but one thing he said that I have trouble with, is the part about the release of the 10 players. That clearly could not have happened in a salary cap environment, or we would have be in true cap hell instead of skirting it as we have done these past so many years. That allowed us to clean the slate. AH and DH's renegotiations may allow us more flexibility going into the future, but dropping 30.5 million in dead weight players is a huge benefit for the team. I can't wait to see how the new CBA deals with all this money we've shuffled around. Maybe they will have a "Redskins Accounting Clause"!

diehard · 03-23-2010, 01:48 PM

I know some fans thought the team was holding back with FA signings but, if you ook at the quality of UFAs, there wasn't a slew of talent and youth available; Dansby being the exception. Now heading into the draft there's still too many 'what ifs'. That's why teams draft the best player available. How much can we lean on Kemoeatu playing NT or Haynesworth for that matter? Would it be smart for the team to purposely play Haynesworth at NT to push him towards a buyout of his contract? I just don't think any team considers Clausen a Top 5 pick so, it's quite a reach to draft him there. It is believable that (in no particular order) McCoy, Suh, Okung, and Bradford (pending his workout) are the consensus Top 4. So by default, one of them will fall into our lap.

This is where trade scenarios come into play. I don't think it's priority to draft a 4-3 DL such as Suh or McCoy; not at 4th overall. What's intriguing is what will SEA and KC do at 5th and 6th overall. SEA has two first rounders and could look to trade with WSH to leapfrog KC to get their guy. That could be a good position to be in.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:54 PM

I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4

53Fan · 03-23-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4

I'm assuming because of his 40 time? I agree that #4 would be too high. Especially with the other talent that will be available.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

I'm assuming because of his 40 time? I agree that #4 would be too high. Especially with the other talent that will be available.

No, I'm not too worried about the 40 time really. Just don't know if he's #4 worthy

SBXVII · 03-23-2010, 02:00 PM

We have holes all over the board. I guess they would know best how to fill those holes. I'd still prefer one of the more top ranked QB's vs. settling for a piece of work and hoping he developes within a year, but I do have concerns about our NT's injuries and will he be ready to start or even if he is will he be able to hold up. Then there is the issue of rotation. He's going to want to be relieved once and a while.

My concerns in order are:

QB
OL
NT
LB
NT

and what ever else we need. You could almost interchange the LB and NT spot depending on depth in the draft.

03-23-2010, 11:17 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,840	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Good stuff. Allen is working his magic already. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-23-2010, 11:55 AM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Sounds like Eric Schaffer is still the best in the business at massaging the cap. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-23-2010, 12:27 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Tim Teebow. That would learn em'. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-23-2010, 12:47 PM	#8
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Damn I was waiting to hear about the Redskins doing something like this. I don't care what anyone says, they Redskins are by far the best at managing the cap. Now we should have tons of cap room if the cap ever does come back. __________________

03-23-2010, 01:12 PM	#9
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Effing genius. What a great read! Can we trade Haynesworth tomorrow?

03-23-2010, 12:05 PM	#4
warpaint The Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Great State of Texas Posts: 1,022	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant This is good to hear. I was thinking we were missing a great oppurtunity to use this uncapped year. __________________ "Not only do you get a 1st down, but you get a whole new set of downs" John Madden

03-23-2010, 01:25 PM	#10
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,701	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Very good analysis, but one thing he said that I have trouble with, is the part about the release of the 10 players. That clearly could not have happened in a salary cap environment, or we would have be in true cap hell instead of skirting it as we have done these past so many years. That allowed us to clean the slate. AH and DH's renegotiations may allow us more flexibility going into the future, but dropping 30.5 million in dead weight players is a huge benefit for the team. I can't wait to see how the new CBA deals with all this money we've shuffled around. Maybe they will have a "Redskins Accounting Clause"!

03-23-2010, 01:48 PM	#11
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant I know some fans thought the team was holding back with FA signings but, if you ook at the quality of UFAs, there wasn't a slew of talent and youth available; Dansby being the exception. Now heading into the draft there's still too many 'what ifs'. That's why teams draft the best player available. How much can we lean on Kemoeatu playing NT or Haynesworth for that matter? *Would it be smart for the team to purposely play Haynesworth at NT to push him towards a buyout of his contract?* I just don't think any team considers Clausen a Top 5 pick so, it's quite a reach to draft him there. It is believable that (in no particular order) McCoy, Suh, Okung, and Bradford (pending his workout) are the consensus Top 4. So by default, one of them will fall into our lap. This is where trade scenarios come into play. I don't think it's priority to draft a 4-3 DL such as Suh or McCoy; not at 4th overall. What's intriguing is what will SEA and KC do at 5th and 6th overall. SEA has two first rounders and could look to trade with WSH to leapfrog KC to get their guy. That could be a good position to be in.

03-23-2010, 01:54 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-23-2010, 02:00 PM	#15
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant We have holes all over the board. I guess they would know best how to fill those holes. I'd still prefer one of the more top ranked QB's vs. settling for a piece of work and hoping he developes within a year, but I do have concerns about our NT's injuries and will he be ready to start or even if he is will he be able to hold up. Then there is the issue of rotation. He's going to want to be relieved once and a while. My concerns in order are: QB OL NT LB NT and what ever else we need. You could almost interchange the LB and NT spot depending on depth in the draft.

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