Mike Williams and Troy Williamson

Daseal · 02-28-2005, 12:11 AM

Ivne - You make good points, but I should have expanded a bit. I think that the 5 yard rule will both help and hurt Mike Williams. Because of his tendency to push off to create all that seperation he gets, he could get a lot of offensive pass interference calls against him. He was a big name playing at a big school. He got every call in the world (just like the Lakers did a few years ago.) In the NFL the corners will be able to play him more physical and won't be completely dominated like many of the college corners he faced.

I think he'll be good -- but I don't see a big first year. Out of all the receivers this year, he's the best one in my eyes. Edwards is a very close 2nd. However, had he gotten into the draft last year he woulda fallen below fitz/Williams. That's just my feeling. He'd be a GREAT red zone target (assuming we get the balls to throw on the opponents side of the field) and he has amazing hands. I think he could be a great player, don't get me wrong. Just saying I can see him having a bit of trouble adjusting. However, very few people can get used to how the NFL works in the first year especially at the WR position.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 12:14 AM

I don't know though... how often do you really see OFFENSIVE pass interference called? I would like to get SOME kind of call, maybe take advantage of the illegal contact rule. It seems like 3 out of 4 times the defensive guy will get called for it.

Daseal · 02-28-2005, 12:35 AM

Malcolm - I believe our team saw more Off. pass INT than we got calls for PI during the season. =p

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 08:56 AM

Seriously? I could have sworn I didn't see any O Pass INT. I DO definitely know we hardly got ANY PI calls.

drew54 · 02-28-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by e16bball

Yes except if we keep Coles and draft Clayton, then our top 3 WRs will all be in the same mold: small, fast, and somewhat worthless in the red zone. Williams would provide us that change-up. That is why he is such an awesome fit for the team.

Thats what Cooley is for. Redzone TD's

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 10:39 AM

Hopefully that's what Portis will be for too.

Daseal · 02-28-2005, 11:11 AM

I'd rather have more than one passing option in the end zone. McCants could be it. Fade to the back corner!

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 11:13 AM

I really would love to see McCants get some more looks in the upcoming season because it doesn't appear like they are trying to shop him anywhere.

MTK · 02-28-2005, 11:35 AM

Or McCants could be simply cut, that's probably the likely scenario.

Monksdown · 02-28-2005, 12:32 PM

I saw Williams run a 4.56 last night. He is a big dude, and he has incredible hands. But I dont think He will slide to 9. I think Minnesota is going to nab him right before us.

Redskins8588 · 02-28-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

I saw Williams run a 4.56 last night. He is a big dude, and he has incredible hands. But I dont think He will slide to 9. I think Minnesota is going to nab him right before us.

Thats why I think that we trade down and pick up Clayton and then hopefully we can pick up another 1st round pick or an early 2nd round pick and pick up a pass rushing DE or DT. Cause I honestly dont think that Williams or Edwards will be around at #9.

02-28-2005, 12:11 AM	#46
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson Ivne - You make good points, but I should have expanded a bit. I think that the 5 yard rule will both help and hurt Mike Williams. Because of his tendency to push off to create all that seperation he gets, he could get a lot of offensive pass interference calls against him. He was a big name playing at a big school. He got every call in the world (just like the Lakers did a few years ago.) In the NFL the corners will be able to play him more physical and won't be completely dominated like many of the college corners he faced. I think he'll be good -- but I don't see a big first year. Out of all the receivers this year, he's the best one in my eyes. Edwards is a very close 2nd. However, had he gotten into the draft last year he woulda fallen below fitz/Williams. That's just my feeling. He'd be a GREAT red zone target (assuming we get the balls to throw on the opponents side of the field) and he has amazing hands. I think he could be a great player, don't get me wrong. Just saying I can see him having a bit of trouble adjusting. However, very few people can get used to how the NFL works in the first year especially at the WR position.

02-28-2005, 12:14 AM	#47
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson I don't know though... how often do you really see OFFENSIVE pass interference called? I would like to get SOME kind of call, maybe take advantage of the illegal contact rule. It seems like 3 out of 4 times the defensive guy will get called for it. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 12:35 AM	#48
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson Malcolm - I believe our team saw more Off. pass INT than we got calls for PI during the season. =p

02-28-2005, 08:56 AM	#49
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson Seriously? I could have sworn I didn't see any O Pass INT. I DO definitely know we hardly got ANY PI calls. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 10:39 AM	#51
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson Hopefully that's what Portis will be for too. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 11:11 AM	#52
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson I'd rather have more than one passing option in the end zone. McCants could be it. Fade to the back corner!

02-28-2005, 11:13 AM	#53
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson I really would love to see McCants get some more looks in the upcoming season because it doesn't appear like they are trying to shop him anywhere. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 11:35 AM	#54
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson Or McCants could be simply cut, that's probably the likely scenario. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-28-2005, 12:32 PM	#55
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 1,515	Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson I saw Williams run a 4.56 last night. He is a big dude, and he has incredible hands. But I dont think He will slide to 9. I think Minnesota is going to nab him right before us.

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