Do you expect Zorn to be fired

[AnonEmouse]

Fire Zorn & Cerrato. Hire Shanahan (if he's daft enough to take the job). Bench Campbell if he has one more bad game. Draft OL, RB, QB and DE in that priority order next year. Trade or FA for a veteran QB as we cannot use Collins as another over the hill stand in. We need a cull in the FO, and coaching & playing staff.

If Snyder can't/won't hire a quality GM for starters, we are in for more of the same for years. Without that, we proabbly can't find a quality coach who will touch us with a barge pole.

[SFREDSKIN]

The problem I see with this team is that we have some many former 1st round picks with huge egos who think they are better than they are. If you recall the teams from Gibbs I, they were mostly mid to low round pick players and FA who weren't guaranteed anything and played with urgency to make the team and keep their jobs.

[BleedBurgundy]

This organization is a fucking mess. That said, Zorn has been a failure in DC.

[ForkLifter]

It's not a question of if, but when. The handwriting is obviously on the wall at this point, and Danny may have the support of the team at this point. Seems to me that many of the guys (mostly defense) are holding back in some of their comments. Hall looked like he really wanted to just "tell it like it is" in his post game interview.

[Lotus]

I think that the real problem is the team culture, not Zorn.

Nonetheless, the coach takes the fall, especially when an offensive coach produces little offense. Zorn may be gone the day after the Philly game, when we are on our bye.

[ForkLifter]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I think that the real problem is the team culture, not Zorn.

Nonetheless, the coach takes the fall, especially when an offensive coach produces little offense. Zorn may be gone the day after the Philly game, when we are on our bye.

I agree, to an extent. But Zorn certainly has not done anything to help himself here.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

This organization is a fucking mess. That said, Zorn has been a failure in DC.

That's the real bottom line. Zorn will be gone soon but ultimately this team's total failure starts at the very top. I think when you look at how Snyder managed Gibbs retirement, from beginning to end, this franchise competes for the most poorly run in the league. Of course Snyder's utter failures as an owner and de facto GM go back to the very beginning but I've heard over and over again contributors to this site say "Leave the past alone and recognize how Snyder has matured." Well ok then I'll focus just on the current situation...and still lil Danny doesn't have the first clue how to put a decent franchise together.

...ultimately Snyder deserves the embarrassment and failure. Zorn doesn't...he was just some random QB coach who was offered a big promotion well beyond his abilities. The players don't deserve it...they don't have any real leadership to look upon and are caught up within a mickey mouse organization. And finally we don't deserve any of this as fans. I do wish I could tune into the game one Sunday and see FedEx field completely empty. I wish determination would overcome apathy and fans would force the little man in the owner's box to sell the franchise he's nearly destroyed or completely turn the thing over to a real GM.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by The Goat

That's the real bottom line. Zorn will be gone soon but ultimately this team's total failure starts at the very top. I think when you look at how Snyder managed Gibbs retirement, from beginning to end, this franchise competes for the most poorly run in the league. Of course Snyder's utter failures as an owner and de facto GM go back to the very beginning but I've heard over and over again contributors to this site say "Leave the past alone and recognize how Snyder has matured." Well ok then I'll focus just on the current situation...and still lil Danny doesn't have the first clue how to put a decent franchise together.

...ultimately Snyder deserves the embarrassment and failure. Zorn doesn't...he was just some random QB coach who was offered a big promotion well beyond his abilities. The players don't deserve it...they don't have any real leadership to look upon and are caught up within a mickey mouse organization. And finally we don't deserve any of this as fans. I do wish I could tune into the game one Sunday and see FedEx field completely empty. I wish determination would overcome apathy and fans would force the little man in the owner's box to sell the franchise he's nearly destroyed or completely turn the thing over to a real GM.

Yeah, that about sums it up for me. Join the Mutiny Goat!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Yeah, that about sums it up for me. Join the Mutiny Goat!

The only thing that will have any impact is dollars and cents. If fans refuse to be swindled by lil Danny and the home games are mostly empty than we have a fighting chance to see positive change.

...but yeah I see where you're goin bro

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The only thing that will have any impact is dollars and cents. If fans refuse to be swindled by lil Danny and the home games are mostly empty than we have a fighting chance to see positive change.

...but yeah I see where you're goin bro

Just last Sunday when we were at the Bucs game we had the ocasion to discuss that very fact. What if (and it's a mighty big if) for one Sunday no fans showed up for the game. What better way to send a message? Danny Boy would be ready to hang the culprit that could be successful in coordinating such an effort, but it's a boycott I'd be more than willing to be a participant.

My signature is more than applicable here: Snyder and Co. are the few, we the fans are the many.........

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

That's the real bottom line. Zorn will be gone soon but ultimately this team's total failure starts at the very top. I think when you look at how Snyder managed Gibbs retirement, from beginning to end, this franchise competes for the most poorly run in the league. Of course Snyder's utter failures as an owner and de facto GM go back to the very beginning but I've heard over and over again contributors to this site say "Leave the past alone and recognize how Snyder has matured." Well ok then I'll focus just on the current situation...and still lil Danny doesn't have the first clue how to put a decent franchise together.

...ultimately Snyder deserves the embarrassment and failure. Zorn doesn't...he was just some random QB coach who was offered a big promotion well beyond his abilities. The players don't deserve it...they don't have any real leadership to look upon and are caught up within a mickey mouse organization. And finally we don't deserve any of this as fans. I do wish I could tune into the game one Sunday and see FedEx field completely empty. I wish determination would overcome apathy and fans would force the little man in the owner's box to sell the franchise he's nearly destroyed or completely turn the thing over to a real GM.

No truer words have ever been spoken, and poor Zorn is saddled with an albatross to great even for him to escape. We have all agreed at some point in time, this team needs far more than just a new/different coach, it's in dire need of respectable ownership.........Just so happens we're stuck with the little man.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by The Goat

That's the real bottom line. Zorn will be gone soon but ultimately this team's total failure starts at the very top. I think when you look at how Snyder managed Gibbs retirement, from beginning to end, this franchise competes for the most poorly run in the league. Of course Snyder's utter failures as an owner and de facto GM go back to the very beginning but I've heard over and over again contributors to this site say "Leave the past alone and recognize how Snyder has matured." Well ok then I'll focus just on the current situation...and still lil Danny doesn't have the first clue how to put a decent franchise together.

...ultimately Snyder deserves the embarrassment and failure. Zorn doesn't...he was just some random QB coach who was offered a big promotion well beyond his abilities. The players don't deserve it...they don't have any real leadership to look upon and are caught up within a mickey mouse organization. And finally we don't deserve any of this as fans. I do wish I could tune into the game one Sunday and see FedEx field completely empty. I wish determination would overcome apathy and fans would force the little man in the owner's box to sell the franchise he's nearly destroyed or completely turn the thing over to a real GM.

Great post, Goat. As to the point in bold, you just let me know how we can force him to sell and I'm on it.

[skinsfaninok]

If zorn isn't gone tomorrow, I won't watch us again until he is! This team is f ing trash

[53Fan]

I tired of trying to predict what this F'ed up franchise will do. Who the hell knows?

[skinsfaninok]

Sorry this offense is trash not our d