Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath

GTripp0012 · 12-08-2008, 02:14 AM

Okay, so we're much better off in terms of playoff picture than we were at the beginning of the day. Go us! This of course assumes that we'll be able to field 11 guys on offense next week, which appears to be up in the air. If we have to play with 9, we'll only be a small favorite to beat the Bengals.

All playoff situations are based on the assumption that the Redskins will win their final three games. Probably a stretch to think we'll beat Philly at this point, but if we beat the Bengals by three, 90% of the people on this site will pick us to win. That's the way Skins fans are.

#1, everyone root for Tampa tomorrow night. It will give us the best chance to make the playoffs.

Teams that we need losses from to make the playoffs include 2 of the three: Carolina, Atlanta, and Dallas

We catch the Cowboys if they lose to either the Giants or the Eagles.

We catch the Falcons if they lose another game (Tampa, Minnesota, St. Louis)

We catch the Panthers if they lose to Tampa tomorrow night, and then lose two out of their final three games.

And we just need two out of the three to happen in order to pull off a wild card birth.

Basically, win out and were in.

hooskins · 12-08-2008, 02:20 AM

The first two are a heck of a lot more likely.

GTripp0012 · 12-08-2008, 02:22 AM

Carolina is vs. Denver, and then @ Giants, and @ Saints to finish.

The Giants will beat them pretty easily. Denver and New Orleans both could beat them, and it's likely that one of them will.

GTripp0012 · 12-08-2008, 02:30 AM

I think were near-eliminated in all scenarios where we don't beat Philadelphia. I know for a fact that our best possible finish in the division is 3rd, so we would need Carolina to lose out (unlikely) and Atlanta to lose two out of three to have a shot (difficult, considering they play the Rams). Assuming that Philly doesn't lose to Cleveland (not happening) we would also need them AND the Giants to beat Dallas.

Basically, our chances of making the playoffs go from 80% if we go 3-0 and beat Philly, to about 15% if we simply take care of business against weaker opponents, but lose to a better Philadelphia team, finishing up at 9-7.

hooskins · 12-08-2008, 03:03 AM

What about going 2-1 and beating Philly?

Twilbert07 · 12-08-2008, 07:04 AM

How about we get a win and then start this conversation.

CRedskinsRule · 12-08-2008, 07:51 AM

This seems very much like last year, where we were counted out at the beginning of December, came back strong and got in. Like GTripp said, win out and we are in.
But, we all knew JG knew how to win in December, he had proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last night's game did nothing to encourage me that the offense will find its spark.

HAILItsGAMEDAY · 12-08-2008, 07:52 AM

Personally I think we had to win last night. It sucks to say it but I think the dream that once was the playoffs is now over for the Washington Redskins.

djnemo65 · 12-08-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This seems very much like last year, where we were counted out at the beginning of December, came back strong and got in. Like GTripp said, win out and we are in.
But, we all knew JG knew how to win in December, he had proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last night's game did nothing to encourage me that the offense will find its spark.

Last year we blew four games consecutively that we should have won. Even though we were 5-7 with four to play we could all argue plausibly that we should have been at worst 7-5. This year we are getting dominated down the stretch. The fact that it has been dominant defenses punching us in the mouth isn't much of a silver lining for me.

hooskins · 12-08-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilbert07

How about we get a win and then start this conversation.

Nice, I was waiting for this kind of post..

SeasonTicketHolder · 12-08-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Nice, I was waiting for this kind of post..

So, you think we have a good shot, huh?

hooskins · 12-08-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SeasonTicketHolder

So, you think we have a good shot, huh?

We are easily the best team in the NFL.

But seriously, why can't we talk playoffs if it's still an option? I don't really get that. If people think it's bad luck then just ignore the thread and don't waste everyone's time by posting and telling people how they should think.

At one point we had a chance to tie the game, even with how shitty we played. That gives me hope we can go 2-1 easily. As for Philly, we'll see. Who knows....

Twilbert07 · 12-08-2008, 08:51 AM

We can talk all kinds of scenarios, but the one thing that doesn't seem to be happening is the number in our W column going up. Also, whether you like Campbell or not, he is 2-6 in December games and is on the decline this year, according to this from today's Washington Post:

Campbell will also have to listen to another week of questions about the offense he leads. While virtually every offensive skill player has seen his numbers plummet during the team's 1-4 skid, Campbell's statistical regression has been stark. When Washington was 6-2, Campbell had eight touchdowns and zero interceptions. In the five games since, he's thrown three touchdowns and six interceptions, with all the interceptions coming in losses. Campbell averaged just 219 yards passing in the team's first eight games, but that number has dipped to 205 over his past five.

Takeuon · 12-08-2008, 09:18 AM

What makes anyone even think we deserve to be in the payoffs. I personally don't!
Even if we were to make it.....it will be the same result as last season.

rypper11 · 12-08-2008, 11:54 AM

Best possible scenario:
The Cowboys will absolutely lose to the Ravens and probably the Giants. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose to Philly too.
The Falcons will lose to at least the Bucs and possibly the Vikings (Peterson will run wild on them).
Panthers lose to TB tonight (I'll be the biggest TB fan in the stands tonight), the Broncos next week and either the Giants or the Saints (giving us the better Conf record and thus the tie-breaker). They struggled against the Raiders, Lions and Packers and were blown out by the Falcons so losing all 4 wouldn't be surprising.
Of course it's moot if we don't finish 10-6 but it gives me a reason to get excited and cheering for other teams to win (Go Bucs!).
Don't be shocked if the last game of the season (4:15, Was at SF) settles the wildcards.

12-08-2008, 02:20 AM	#2
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath The first two are a heck of a lot more likely. __________________ Vacancy

12-08-2008, 02:22 AM	#3
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath Carolina is vs. Denver, and then @ Giants, and @ Saints to finish. The Giants will beat them pretty easily. Denver and New Orleans both could beat them, and it's likely that one of them will. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-08-2008, 02:30 AM	#4
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath I think were near-eliminated in all scenarios where we don't beat Philadelphia. I know for a fact that our best possible finish in the division is 3rd, so we would need Carolina to lose out (unlikely) and Atlanta to lose two out of three to have a shot (difficult, considering they play the Rams). Assuming that Philly doesn't lose to Cleveland (not happening) we would also need them AND the Giants to beat Dallas. Basically, our chances of making the playoffs go from 80% if we go 3-0 and beat Philly, to about 15% if we simply take care of business against weaker opponents, but lose to a better Philadelphia team, finishing up at 9-7. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-08-2008, 03:03 AM	#5
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath What about going 2-1 and beating Philly? __________________ Vacancy

12-08-2008, 07:04 AM	#6
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath How about we get a win and then start this conversation. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

12-08-2008, 02:14 AM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath Okay, so we're much better off in terms of playoff picture than we were at the beginning of the day. Go us! This of course assumes that we'll be able to field 11 guys on offense next week, which appears to be up in the air. If we have to play with 9, we'll only be a small favorite to beat the Bengals. All playoff situations are based on the assumption that the Redskins will win their final three games. Probably a stretch to think we'll beat Philly at this point, but if we beat the Bengals by three, 90% of the people on this site will pick us to win. That's the way Skins fans are. #1, everyone root for Tampa tomorrow night. It will give us the best chance to make the playoffs. Teams that we need losses from to make the playoffs include 2 of the three: Carolina, Atlanta, and Dallas We catch the Cowboys if they lose to either the Giants or the Eagles. We catch the Falcons if they lose another game (Tampa, Minnesota, St. Louis) We catch the Panthers if they lose to Tampa tomorrow night, and then lose two out of their final three games. And we just need two out of the three to happen in order to pull off a wild card birth. Basically, win out and were in. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-08-2008, 07:51 AM	#7
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,504	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath This seems very much like last year, where we were counted out at the beginning of December, came back strong and got in. Like GTripp said, win out and we are in. But, we all knew JG knew how to win in December, he had proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Last night's game did nothing to encourage me that the offense will find its spark.

12-08-2008, 07:52 AM	#8
HAILItsGAMEDAY Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Georgetown Posts: 94	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath Personally I think we had to win last night. It sucks to say it but I think the dream that once was the playoffs is now over for the Washington Redskins.

12-08-2008, 08:51 AM	#13
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath We can talk all kinds of scenarios, but the one thing that doesn't seem to be happening is the number in our W column going up. Also, whether you like Campbell or not, he is 2-6 in December games and is on the decline this year, according to this from today's Washington Post: Campbell will also have to listen to another week of questions about the offense he leads. While virtually every offensive skill player has seen his numbers plummet during the team's 1-4 skid, Campbell's statistical regression has been stark. When Washington was 6-2, Campbell had eight touchdowns and zero interceptions. In the five games since, he's thrown three touchdowns and six interceptions, with all the interceptions coming in losses. Campbell averaged just 219 yards passing in the team's first eight games, but that number has dipped to 205 over his past five. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

12-08-2008, 09:18 AM	#14
Takeuon Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 573	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath What makes anyone even think we deserve to be in the payoffs. I personally don't! Even if we were to make it.....it will be the same result as last season. __________________ #21 Will always be missed. Gone but not forgotten

12-08-2008, 11:54 AM	#15
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Playoff Picture Update, Ravens Game Aftermath Best possible scenario: The Cowboys will absolutely lose to the Ravens and probably the Giants. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose to Philly too. The Falcons will lose to at least the Bucs and possibly the Vikings (Peterson will run wild on them). Panthers lose to TB tonight (I'll be the biggest TB fan in the stands tonight), the Broncos next week and either the Giants or the Saints (giving us the better Conf record and thus the tie-breaker). They struggled against the Raiders, Lions and Packers and were blown out by the Falcons so losing all 4 wouldn't be surprising. Of course it's moot if we don't finish 10-6 but it gives me a reason to get excited and cheering for other teams to win (Go Bucs!). Don't be shocked if the last game of the season (4:15, Was at SF) settles the wildcards. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

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