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EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-03-2007, 04:26 PM

Sec is a tougher confrence this is exactly what everyone was saying last year when Florida got there ahead of Michigan and they whipped OSU's ass in the game

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-03-2007, 04:27 PM

When LSU lost to Kentucky I believe they were ranked like 9th or something

Cowell · 12-03-2007, 05:02 PM

I do agree they need a playoff system but honestly I don't think it will happen. As for LSU, they are a better team then what was on the field Saturday night in the SEC Championship game. They were a really banged up team and I think that with Matt Flynn back they will be much better. It will be a great game against Ohio State.

Daseal · 12-03-2007, 04:45 PM

Well EQ -- the only people that Tech lost to were ranked #2 and #1 in the country respectively. The comps had them #1 for a reason. They've come a long way since the loss to LSU. LSU has gotten worse.

This is why college football blows. There's no closure. We can debate all day about who should go, and everyone has an argument. Without some sort of playoff system, it's impossible. Take the top 8 teams to a playoff. Thats two extra games. Keep the same ranking system, and if you aren't top 8, chances are you dont deserve a shot.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-03-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Well EQ -- the only people that Tech lost to were ranked #2 and #1 in the country respectively. The comps had them #1 for a reason. They've come a long way since the loss to LSU. LSU has gotten worse.

This is why college football blows. There's no closure. We can debate all day about who should go, and everyone has an argument. Without some sort of playoff system, it's impossible. Take the top 8 teams to a playoff. Thats two extra games. Keep the same ranking system, and if you aren't top 8, chances are you dont deserve a shot.

LSU is not a worse team they were just hurt. Boston College was undeserving of that ranking

GTripp0012 · 12-03-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Well EQ -- the only people that Tech lost to were ranked #2 and #1 in the country respectively. The comps had them #1 for a reason. They've come a long way since the loss to LSU. LSU has gotten worse.

This is why college football blows. There's no closure. We can debate all day about who should go, and everyone has an argument. Without some sort of playoff system, it's impossible. Take the top 8 teams to a playoff. Thats two extra games. Keep the same ranking system, and if you aren't top 8, chances are you dont deserve a shot.

Truth is though, Boston College was never that good this season. At the time they beat Va. Tech, they hadn't lost yet. Va. Tech was better though, I thought they proved that in that game, and they definately proved it in the ACC Championship.

But the point is that if you are arguing that LSU doesn't deserve it, you still will end up making an argument that will end up disqualifying pretty much any team that could play OSU. The computer average isn't a statistical formula that tries to find who played the best football, its an average of like 6-7 human polls.

The point is that the idea is to find the best 2 teams and have them play. That was accomplished this year. The goal is not to find the teams with the least "unimpressive losses" or crazy wins or whatever. It's supposed to be the two best teams.

If any of the other teams had been more impressive than the two that made it, then they should have gotten it. No one really was. I thought WVU was for awhile, but they not only didn't beat Pittsburgh, but basically lost to a Pitt team that didn't even play it's best game.

itvnetop · 12-03-2007, 07:08 PM

Hawaii deserves the spot in the MNC. I don't care how weak the WAC schedule is, they went undefeated in D1.

LSU in the game would have been the same as putting Georgia, OU, VT or USC in that spot. Honestly, all five teams would probably beat (maybe even destroy) Hawaii or OSU. But that isn't the point- all five teams had their chances to be in the game and they screwed the pooch (twice).

If it were b/t OSU and Hawaii, the champion probably wouldn't be the best team in the nation... but it would be the one who deserved it, based on regular season play. Like TMC mentioned earlier, anyone in the top 10 could probably beat each other right now on any given day. Since we don't have a playoff (which is ridiculous), slotting LSU in the second spot is as arbitrary as can be.

There's a million arguments for each case- all as valid as the next. "The SEC is the best conference." "The 8th place Pac 10 team destroyed the SEC East Champion." "LSU didn't lose in regulation." "Georgia and USC have played the best football the past month and a half."

The solution? If there's no playoff, it's Hawaii. Their record trumps every subjective argument out there.

djnemo65 · 12-04-2007, 01:08 AM

What I hate is how bowl proponents justify the system by claiming that every game is a playoff game with the national championship on the line. That's fine, except for the fact that it's obviously not true. We are going to have a champion with two playoff losses, which hasn't happened since I hosted a triple elimination Joe Montana NFL tournament at my house in 8th grade (for those of you who don't remember there was one year where that game totally eclipsed Madden).

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 01-17-2008, 05:43 PM

Man this was a whacked out sleeper of a BCS this season

jsarno · 01-17-2008, 11:02 PM

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Man this was a whacked out sleeper of a BCS this season

Yup...thank goodness it was, or LSU would have ended 10th or worse.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 01-17-2008, 11:53 PM

doubt it they proved they are the best team in the NCAA right now

KLHJ2 · 01-18-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

doubt it they proved they are the best team in the NCAA right now

Only by BCS standards. College needs to go to a playoff system, I think that WV might have been able to beat them.

jsarno · 01-18-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

doubt it they proved they are the best team in the NCAA right now

No they didn't. Ohio State was soft...Georgia didn't even play and lost ground to LSU...same with Kansas. Also, West Virginia was freakin hot. LSU shouldn't even have played in that final game...thus the MASSIVE need for a playoff system and correct these mistakes. Had LSU won through the playoffs, no one would question them as the winners.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 01-18-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

No they didn't. Ohio State was soft...Georgia didn't even play and lost ground to LSU...same with Kansas. Also, West Virginia was freakin hot. LSU shouldn't even have played in that final game...thus the MASSIVE need for a playoff system and correct these mistakes. Had LSU won through the playoffs, no one would question them as the winners.

Then tell me who should have played there.

Daseal · 01-18-2008, 12:50 AM

WV would have gotten blown out. WVU had their chance to play in the title game and totally blew it.

The BCS is awful and let the top 8 teams play for the championship. But without a doubt, LSU played great. The SEC blows every conference away. No one comes close.

12-03-2007, 05:02 PM	#3
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! I do agree they need a playoff system but honestly I don't think it will happen. As for LSU, they are a better team then what was on the field Saturday night in the SEC Championship game. They were a really banged up team and I think that with Matt Flynn back they will be much better. It will be a great game against Ohio State.

12-03-2007, 04:45 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! Well EQ -- the only people that Tech lost to were ranked #2 and #1 in the country respectively. The comps had them #1 for a reason. They've come a long way since the loss to LSU. LSU has gotten worse. This is why college football blows. There's no closure. We can debate all day about who should go, and everyone has an argument. Without some sort of playoff system, it's impossible. Take the top 8 teams to a playoff. Thats two extra games. Keep the same ranking system, and if you aren't top 8, chances are you dont deserve a shot. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

12-03-2007, 07:08 PM	#7
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! Hawaii deserves the spot in the MNC. I don't care how weak the WAC schedule is, they went undefeated in D1. LSU in the game would have been the same as putting Georgia, OU, VT or USC in that spot. Honestly, all five teams would probably beat (maybe even destroy) Hawaii or OSU. But that isn't the point- all five teams had their chances to be in the game and they screwed the pooch (twice). If it were b/t OSU and Hawaii, the champion probably wouldn't be the best team in the nation... but it would be the one who deserved it, based on regular season play. Like TMC mentioned earlier, anyone in the top 10 could probably beat each other right now on any given day. Since we don't have a playoff (which is ridiculous), slotting LSU in the second spot is as arbitrary as can be. There's a million arguments for each case- all as valid as the next. "The SEC is the best conference." "The 8th place Pac 10 team destroyed the SEC East Champion." "LSU didn't lose in regulation." "Georgia and USC have played the best football the past month and a half." The solution? If there's no playoff, it's Hawaii. Their record trumps every subjective argument out there.

12-04-2007, 01:08 AM	#8
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! What I hate is how bowl proponents justify the system by claiming that every game is a playoff game with the national championship on the line. That's fine, except for the fact that it's obviously not true. We are going to have a champion with two playoff losses, which hasn't happened since I hosted a triple elimination Joe Montana NFL tournament at my house in 8th grade (for those of you who don't remember there was one year where that game totally eclipsed Madden).

01-17-2008, 05:43 PM	#9
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12-03-2007, 04:26 PM	#1
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! Sec is a tougher confrence this is exactly what everyone was saying last year when Florida got there ahead of Michigan and they whipped OSU's ass in the game __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

12-03-2007, 04:27 PM	#2
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! When LSU lost to Kentucky I believe they were ranked like 9th or something __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

01-17-2008, 11:53 PM	#11
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! doubt it they proved they are the best team in the NCAA right now __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

01-18-2008, 12:50 AM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Lsu! Lsu! Lsu! WV would have gotten blown out. WVU had their chance to play in the title game and totally blew it. The BCS is awful and let the top 8 teams play for the championship. But without a doubt, LSU played great. The SEC blows every conference away. No one comes close. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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