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Old 03-07-2004, 03:36 PM   #1
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Losing Champ but improving the depth of the secondary with 3 starter CBs. It would be a good move but I'm thinking the Rams could match ... when you develop your own starter-quality talent, it's nice to keep it especially when the compensation is just a fifth rounder. You're not likely to find a replacement there. And he must be a high character guy or else Gibbs wouldn't want him.
The Rams aren't in the best of shape cap wise so this could swing in favor of the Skins.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:16 PM   #2
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I'm going to agree. I really dont like this as much as some people. Its not really the 5th rounder that gets too me, but what exactly are we signing him for? To be a nickleback @ two mill a year when Smoot isnt even making a million dollars this year? I do think he's good to have as a backup, but does this mean Baumon or Jimoah are gonna get cut? One of them is going to have to go, cause it dosent make sense to have three nicklebacks in there. I really thought Bauman did a ok job, but we shall see. I'm not outcrying against htis or anything, but i Just dont favor it as much as some of the other stuff we have been doing.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:56 PM   #3
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Uh, SMoot has durability problems. Go take a look at last year and see what kind of pain he played with. He had possibly the most painful injury you can still play with. Jimoh wouldnt exactly be a huge loss for the skins. I can only think of one person on the board crying. Hes alright, but not as good as Butler.
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Old 03-07-2004, 08:44 PM   #4
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I give major props to Smoot for playing hurt last year, that took major stones. But with the possible aquisition of Butler, he wouldn't have to risk further injury and would be replaced by a young player with almost an entire season as a starter. Thats something I don't if its been brought up or not, this guy has only been in the league for 3years I believe so we have the chance of having 2 very young, yet highly skilled cbs in our system for years to come hopefully. I don't think that anyone can rationally argue that we could find a cb with starting lineup talent in the 5th round. sure he might be a little overpaid but tell me someone on our team that isn't or soon will be. bottom line is for a fifth round pick that most likely wouldn't have gotten us squat, we get a very solid, young cb who could fill in on the starting lineup if need be.
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Old 03-08-2004, 12:49 AM   #5
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Plus (I hate to say this, especially with our new moderator around!) but Smoot is in the last year of his rookie deal. They may be cushioning themselves for that. I hope not, given how much I like Smoot, but it's a business.
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Old 03-08-2004, 03:12 AM   #6
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Plus (I hate to say this, especially with our new moderator around!) but Smoot is in the last year of his rookie deal. They may be cushioning themselves for that. I hope not, given how much I like Smoot, but it's a business.
I sure hope Smoot stays. JimohSmack doesn't have quite the same ring to it
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Snyder slipped in a bonus that kicks in for year 3 to give the Rams something else to chew on. So shrewd, LOL gotta love it
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Old 03-08-2004, 06:19 PM   #8
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no more big names is what the skins have stated just role players. Expect us to take Jason Dunn of the Chiefs, The linebacker who got cut by the panthers because of Armstead and some good role model players. One big I just can't Snyder letting go is Sapp as much as I hate it he might end up a skin next year especially if the Buccs take Garcia.

Personally I'd rather take Wiley because he still may dominate this year
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One big I just can't Snyder letting go is Sapp as much as I hate it he might end up a skin next year especially if the Buccs take Garcia.

Personally I'd rather take Wiley because he still may dominate this year
i hope that warren sapp does not come anywhere close to washington until the 2004 season.i would take wiley over sapp in a second.sapp is fat,old,overated,and a cancer to any team he is on.
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no more big names is what the skins have stated just role players. Expect us to take Jason Dunn of the Chiefs, The linebacker who got cut by the panthers because of Armstead and some good role model players. One big I just can't Snyder letting go is Sapp as much as I hate it he might end up a skin next year especially if the Buccs take Garcia.

Personally I'd rather take Wiley because he still may dominate this year
Cerrato was on "Elliot in the Morning" today, and he said unequivocally that the Skins will not pursue Sapp. He said Sapp "doesn't fit the profile of the kind of guy we're looking for," and that "he might be good for you guys on the radio, but not for the Redskins." Sounds like Gibbs' well-documented preference for what he terms "Redskins-type guys" is rubbing off on old Vinny and Snyder. A few years ago, the Skins' FO would have been begging Sapp to don the burgundy and gold. These days, Gibbs' personality standards have deemed Sapp unworthy of the colors. That's a rather comforting development, in my opinion.
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Old 03-08-2004, 07:01 PM   #11
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Cerrato was on "Elliot in the Morning" today, and he said unequivocally that the Skins will not pursue Sapp.
I didn't hear this - who did he say we're going to go after then?? Or are we done shopping? Is Wiley a viable recruit?? If we got one more solid D-Lineman, I'd be pretty confident that Taylor is going to be a Skin...
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that is the best thing i have heard since i do'nt know when.sapp would be a waste of money and a huge distraction.
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I didn't hear this - who did he say we're going to go after then?? Or are we done shopping? Is Wiley a viable recruit?? If we got one more solid D-Lineman, I'd be pretty confident that Taylor is going to be a Skin...
When asked about any more big names coming to the team, Vinny made it sound like they're pretty much done with any major shopping, and are only looking to make a couple more minor pickups, stating, "we're running out of money!" He said nothing about Wiley or Brackens (unless I missed it).

When pressed on the pass rush issue, he made a point of reiterating Gregg Williams' assertion that the Skins will be okay with Lavar and Marcus Washington rushing from the LB or DE spots.

I think a lot of this is the team blowing smoke, trying to make it sound like they feel comfortable with their defense as-is, and won't be looking to shop their #5 pick. Obviously, if other teams know they're going to use the draft to augment their pass rush, they'll also know that the Skins will be looking to trade down, as none of the premier pass rushers are currently valued to be much higher than the 10th pick or so. The more the Redskins make it sound like they're prepared to stand pat, the more other teams are likely to offer for their pick.
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