Sam Howell Traded

[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

He had his knee injured in his rookie season because his OLine couldn't block, by Jon Allen if I recall. Missed a large part of the season. They then started putting major resources into building the OL. Who knows how that will effect the longevity of his career.

The point remains a bad OL didn't ruin him, and you are speculating that the injury was a direct result of that poor OL when we don't know that.

[mredskins]

Not to defend jamf but he was right all along , some folks need to eat some crow

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Not to defend jamf but he was right all along , some folks need to eat some crow

I'm having flounder stuffed with crab imperial tonight instead.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm having flounder stuffed with crab imperial tonight instead.

Wife surprised me with a seafood boil

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Not to defend jamf but he was right all along , some folks need to eat some crow

I don't think that getting an improved draft pick proves him right, let's see what happens to Howell in Seattle.

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[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think that getting an improved draft pick proves him right, let's see what happens to Howell in Seattle.

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Exactly. I seem to recall Jamf thought he wasn't worth a 7th rounder, not what I would call right all along, but its over now and Howell is gone. No need to dwell on what is past

[jamf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think that getting an improved draft pick proves him right, let's see what happens to Howell in Seattle.

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Trading a 17 game starting QB for two "improved" draft picks is the definition of dumping a guy for anything you can get. couldn't even get one whole pick for the bum.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by jamf

Trading a 17 game starting QB for two "improved" draft picks is the definition of dumping a guy for anything you can get. couldn't even get one whole pick for the bum.

So you would rather they had kept him?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by jamf

Trading a 17 game starting QB for two "improved" draft picks is the definition of dumping a guy for anything you can get. couldn't even get one whole pick for the bum.

Seattle was a player for Fields they chose Howell over Fields I think that says something right there

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by jamf

Trading a 17 game starting QB for two "improved" draft picks is the definition of dumping a guy for anything you can get. couldn't even get one whole pick for the bum.

jamf will you at least give Howell some credit if we end up flipping one of these picks for a stud pick or player or we draft a stud with one of the Seahawks picks?

Because if we draft a pro bowler with the 78th overall pick that we got as a result of Howell playing - he gets a piece of the credit. He played well enough to improve our draft position and that counts for something.

Yes he played like ass in the second half of the season last year but I'm not tossing his career in the garbage yet. Lots of guys need multiple years of seasoning before they understand the NFL game. I won't be surprised if Howell stays in the league for 10+ years as a backup or mid-range starter. He's just not ready right now.

And give him credit where it's due - he played the entire year and got us the #2 overall pick. Imagine if he was mediocre enough to get us a classic Ron 8-8 record? If our next qb is a stud we can thank Howell for his efforts.

TL;DR: Thanks for everything Sam. Good or bad you played a direct role in setting up this franchise for the long term future. Your career isn't over yet and now get a chance to relax and take your time learning the game. Good luck - except for when you play us.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Not to defend jamf but he was right all along , some folks need to eat some crow

right about what ?? A young QB that was thrown to the wolves under a horrible run team with very little help with the OC .. yea ! we shall see how Sam plays under a real team .. we haven't had that in 23 years ! Currently our QB is MM .. hope that this Golden ticket number 2 pick works out..

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

right about what ?? A young QB that was thrown to the wolves under a horrible run team with very little help with the OC .. yea ! we shall see how Sam plays under a real team .. we haven't had that in 23 years ! Currently our QB is MM .. hope that this Golden ticket number 2 pick works out..

i swear to god some of you are still holding on to pineapple jesus coming out of the grave and leading us to a super bowl

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

right about what ?? A young QB that was thrown to the wolves under a horrible run team with very little help with the OC .. yea ! we shall see how Sam plays under a real team .. we haven't had that in 23 years ! Currently our QB is MM .. hope that this Golden ticket number 2 pick works out..

Not one of the top three QBs in this years draft would have done any better than Sam. Not one.

That offensive line and play calling was a lesson in futility. It was never going to work out.

I agree with your sentiments, sir, and hope they give Daniels the protection he needs to succeed. Undersized and unprotected in the NFL will get you folded up like a lawn chair. Lord knows Daniels will be running too much already by way of his style of QB. He needs his blindside covered, and time to throw and grow in a new offense.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

Not one of the top three QBs in this years draft would have done any better than Sam. Not one.

That offensive line and play calling was a lesson in futility. It was never going to work out.

I agree with your sentiments, sir, and hope they give Daniels the protection he needs to succeed. Undersized and unprotected in the NFL will get you folded up like a lawn chair. Lord knows Daniels will be running too much already by way of his style of QB. He needs his blindside covered, and time to throw and grow in a new offense.

Thats a lie and I dont agree with that at all.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Thats a lie and I dont agree with that at all.

I agree with Jim on this. Under our system we ran, none of them would have done any better. The protection wasn't there. That's why you don't play young QBs unless you can protect them.