Hogs Jacoby, Bostic, Grimm, Starke, Riggo etc to sue owner Daniel Snyder

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think they're just trying to stop Snyder from profiting off the name.



Will it succeed? Idk.

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[Chico23231]

So these guys want to be paid, right? Or we sticking with the narrative they are dragging another legacy through the mud? Both can be true, but if they are given money…this goes away I’m guessing?

[BaltimoreSkins]

I rarely side with management but I don’t see why now when profit has been made off their likeness for 40 years. I think I need more info than what the articles are giving to understand the players logic

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I rarely side with management but I don’t see why now when profit has been made off their likeness for 40 years. I think I need more info than what the articles are giving to understand the players logic

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I needed to use the bathroom

[skinsfan69]

Just stop w/ the going into the past. There is nothing about this franchise that represents the past so just leave it alone. You have a shitty new name and totally different uniforms that are also shitty.

What does Commanders have to do w/ the Hogs? Those teams and that name represented great o-line play. Ron pretty much patches it together so again, leave it alone. I can't really blame the players, even though I feel they're wanting to get cash out of it.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Jason Wright: The more things change the more they stay the same. Snyder hired him because he was just as controllable, but looked a lot different than Vinny, Bruce, etc., so he would get some credit for the hire, while knowing absolutely nothing was changing.

These are elite, high paying jobs, almost can't blame all of them for taking the job. But that's a lot different than respecting them. Note - Bruce was a scumbag, he's definitely worse than Vinny or Wright.

Fucking Snyder is a poison.

[MTK]

Think we need to take step back on some of this criticism of Jason Wright. First off he oversees the business side of the org, he has no input on football matters like Bruce or Vinny did. So directly comparing them really isn't fair.

The fact that we even know who he is tells you all you need to know about what a shit head Snyder is by pushing people out in front of him to take all the heat while he fucks things up behind the curtain. I'd be shocked if anyone could name who runs the business side of any other team in the league off the top of their head.

If you didn't like how the new name was handled, ok. It wasn't super smooth especially the roll-out. But he never said the fans were going to pick the name. His job was to engage the fans and welcome their input, but let's be clear, nobody ever said the fans would get to choose the name.

And let's be honest here, Snyder was going to pick the name in the end. His team, his money, his decision 110%. So if you really believe Snyder is the puppet master and Wright is just a "lackey", why are you mad at Wright when we all know this was Snyder's mess all along?

I think Wright is a good guy doing the best he can in a really shitty situation. He hasn't hid in the shadows and refused to do interviews the way Allen did. He's been open to correcting blatant mistakes like with the team crest and the recent ST tribute.

A lot of speculation out there from those in the know that think he was put in place by the league. I think he's done the best job he can considering the shit storm constantly swirling around the team.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Think we need to take step back on some of this criticism of Jason Wright. First off he oversees the business side of the org, he has no input on football matters like Bruce or Vinny did. So directly comparing them really isn't fair.

The fact that we even know who he is tells you all you need to know about what a shit head Snyder is by pushing people out in front of him to take all the heat while he fucks things up behind the curtain. I'd be shocked if anyone could name who runs the business side of any other team in the league off the top of their head.

If you didn't like how the new name was handled, ok. It wasn't super smooth especially the roll-out. But he never said the fans were going to pick the name. His job was to engage the fans and welcome their input, but let's be clear, nobody ever said the fans would get to choose the name.

And let's be honest here, Snyder was going to pick the name in the end. His team, his money, his decision 110%. So if you really believe Snyder is the puppet master and Wright is just a "lackey", why are you mad at Wright when we all know this was Snyder's mess all along?

I think Wright is a good guy doing the best he can in a really shitty situation. He hasn't hid in the shadows and refused to do interviews the way Allen did. He's been open to correcting blatant mistakes like with the team crest and the recent ST tribute.

A lot of speculation out there from those in the know that think he was put in place by the league. I think he's done the best job he can considering the shit storm constantly swirling around the team.

Big facts.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Think we need to take step back on some of this criticism of Jason Wright. First off he oversees the business side of the org, he has no input on football matters like Bruce or Vinny did. So directly comparing them really isn't fair.

The fact that we even know who he is tells you all you need to know about what a shit head Snyder is by pushing people out in front of him to take all the heat while he fucks things up behind the curtain. I'd be shocked if anyone could name who runs the business side of any other team in the league off the top of their head.

If you didn't like how the new name was handled, ok. It wasn't super smooth especially the roll-out. But he never said the fans were going to pick the name. His job was to engage the fans and welcome their input, but let's be clear, nobody ever said the fans would get to choose the name.

And let's be honest here, Snyder was going to pick the name in the end. His team, his money, his decision 110%. So if you really believe Snyder is the puppet master and Wright is just a "lackey", why are you mad at Wright when we all know this was Snyder's mess all along?

I think Wright is a good guy doing the best he can in a really shitty situation. He hasn't hid in the shadows and refused to do interviews the way Allen did. He's been open to correcting blatant mistakes like with the team crest and the recent ST tribute.

A lot of speculation out there from those in the know that think he was put in place by the league. I think he's done the best job he can considering the shit storm constantly swirling around the team.

A lot of good points there, but he still doesn't get a pass from me. Too many blunders on the business side for him to get a pass. Yes, Dan is still to blame for all of it as he is the man at the top, but maybe the reason we can't come up with names for who runs the business side of any other teams in the league is because there's no other team in the league that fails as miserably at it - over and over.

Honestly, doesn't matter to me anymore if this sale is for real. Hopefully the house is cleansed from top to bottom, and the new owner hires competent people who care about the history of this franchise as much as its future.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Think we need to take step back on some of this criticism of Jason Wright. First off he oversees the business side of the org, he has no input on football matters like Bruce or Vinny did. So directly comparing them really isn't fair.



The fact that we even know who he is tells you all you need to know about what a shit head Snyder is by pushing people out in front of him to take all the heat while he fucks things up behind the curtain. I'd be shocked if anyone could name who runs the business side of any other team in the league off the top of their head.



If you didn't like how the new name was handled, ok. It wasn't super smooth especially the roll-out. But he never said the fans were going to pick the name. His job was to engage the fans and welcome their input, but let's be clear, nobody ever said the fans would get to choose the name.



And let's be honest here, Snyder was going to pick the name in the end. His team, his money, his decision 110%. So if you really believe Snyder is the puppet master and Wright is just a "lackey", why are you mad at Wright when we all know this was Snyder's mess all along?



I think Wright is a good guy doing the best he can in a really shitty situation. He hasn't hid in the shadows and refused to do interviews the way Allen did. He's been open to correcting blatant mistakes like with the team crest and the recent ST tribute.



A lot of speculation out there from those in the know that think he was put in place by the league. I think he's done the best job he can considering the shit storm constantly swirling around the team.

I fully agree on these two points:

- Jason and Ron both seem to be very nice and likeable guys

- Wright isn't involved in football operations so the comparison with Bruce isn't accurate

Then:

- if you wanna take him off the hook for the name thing because Dan was always going to decide it, that's fair... But then he didn't need to advertise, to the the extent that he did, about the oh so valuable fan input, if they were going to not give a f about it.

Finally I think there are things he can absolutely not be taken off the hook at all: because he's not involved in football operations, his only job is the business side, so those are unexcusable, no matter how shitty your boss is:

-the embarrassment that was the name reveal with Doug on national TV

-the infamous toilet Sean Taylor street

-the infamous Sean Taylor memorial statue

-this hog mascot blunder

And maybe I'm forgetting some, but those highly incompetent and embarrassing mistakes are on him. Maybe not only on him. But as team president in charge of pretty much only this, I don't see how that's not on mainly him.

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[EdmundDorf]

Dan doesn't take care of the small details, those have been some of the most disappointing fails , that they can't even get simple things right. That comes down to the people Dan has hired not doing the job

[MTK]

I'm not saying give Wright a pass, but some of the criticism of him is over the top.

I'd find to hard to believe other teams don't also have business/PR related blunders from time to time. Either way Wright is in a tough spot with Snyder in the background shitting all over himself all the time. Same for Ron, both are really good guys who no matter what they do can't overcome one of the worst owner in all of sports history. And unfortunately they catch the shrapnel.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm not saying give Wright a pass, but some of the criticism of him is over the top.

I'd find to hard to believe other teams don't also have business/PR related blunders from time to time. Either way Wright is in a tough spot with Snyder in the background shitting all over himself all the time. Same for Ron, both are really good guys who no matter what they do can't overcome one of the worst owner in all of sports history. And unfortunately they catch the shrapnel.

Yep, everyone in this organization finds themselves in a tough spot eventually with this jackass ultimately running the shit show. I can't believe we may be coming to the end of his reign.

[calia]

Not soon enough.


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