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Old 07-26-2019, 08:57 AM   #1
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That was my thought too. If they sign him for $1.0M then it will tell me they're just trying to bolster the depth. If they pay $3M or something then I'll be a little concerned about Trent, it will tell me they think they have a roster hole they need to fill.
true the contract will say a lot if they sign him
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Old 07-27-2019, 02:06 AM   #2
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Bringing in Penn makes me think Trent could really have his heels dug in for the long term. Not good.


Or it is intended to pressure Trent to make a deal. Doubt it will work, but that could be the thinking.


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Or it is intended to pressure Trent to make a deal. Doubt it will work, but that could be the thinking.


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I definitely think that could be in play. If that's the case I actually think that's legit: you're not in a position to negotiate if the person you're negotiating with is your only option... you're right, not sure it'll work, but that'd be the right thing to do IMO.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Considering the Redskins problem with injured players extending a player who misses 1/4 of the games, is always nicked up and over 30, with two years left on his contract would not be a smart move. It would be a different story if he was 25 and rarely missed a start.
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Old 07-26-2019, 09:25 AM   #5
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Just get Penn on the team and kick Flowers inside or cut him.

Penn is a legit Tackle, probably should have signed him anyway as depth to begin with and have took Flowers money and signed a legit left Guard as depth and who could have challenged for starter position ala a Tom Compton.
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Just get Penn on the team and kick Flowers inside or cut him.

Penn is a legit Tackle, probably should have signed him anyway as depth to begin with and have took Flowers money and signed a legit left Guard as depth and who could have challenged for starter position ala a Tom Compton.
Yeah 12 Year vet overall 77.5 Grade at Tackle.

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Old 07-26-2019, 05:54 PM   #7
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We need to trade Trent Williams right now!
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:38 PM   #8
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We need to trade Trent Williams right now!
Stop with that. Think of it in terms of stock. Buy low sell high. Right now you have disgruntled player wanting more money and an apology. If we trade him now it is the very definition of selling low. On the other side, since we have his rights for two years if he sits out we get cap relief for the games he misses, he loses money and potential money, which in the long run gives us better leverage.

Trading him now is a 2005 dan snyder move.

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Old 07-26-2019, 08:19 PM   #9
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Reportedly Penn wanted too much money, so they signed Cory Robinson.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/RobiCo00.htm

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Old 07-26-2019, 08:23 PM   #10
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Stop with that. Think of it in terms of stock. Buy low sell high. Right now you have disgruntled player wanting more money and an apology. If we trade him now it is the very definition of selling low. On the other side, since we have his rights for two years if he sits out we get cap relief for the games he misses, he loses money and potential money, which in the long run gives us better leverage.

Trading him now is a 2005 dan snyder move.

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I understand that. I'm just tired of kissing the ass of overpaid losers. He might be elite at his position. Yet his elite play at his position hasn't gotten us anywhere. I would much rather invest in the future before I pay this dude another dime extra. He agreed to a contract and he should play it out. What type of guy leaves his teammates hanging? I just want this whole thing to be over as soon as possible.
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I understand that. I'm just tired of kissing the ass of overpaid losers. He might be elite at his position. Yet his elite play at his position hasn't gotten us anywhere. I would much rather invest in the future before I pay this dude another dime extra. He agreed to a contract and he should play it out. What type of guy leaves his teammates hanging? I just want this whole thing to be over as soon as possible.
This is one of your more revealing posts. In this one, in the space of a single sentence, you've gone from calling Trent an overpaid loser to conceding that he might be elite at his position. You know that doesn't make any sense. I think if you could just cool your jets a little and post using more reason and less emotion than you would probably be able to make your points more clearly.

Haven't you noticed that this site is different? I'd say it is better than other Redskins sites because It is populated by posters who enjoy lively discussion and debate about the Redskins. Please, join the discussion but don't think that this site is a rant fest like another site we all know and dislike.
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This is one of your more revealing posts. In this one, in the space of a single sentence, you've gone from calling Trent an overpaid loser to conceding that he might be elite at his position. You know that doesn't make any sense. I think if you could just cool your jets a little and post using more reason and less emotion than you would probably be able to make your points more clearly.



Haven't you noticed that this site is different? I'd say it is better than other Redskins sites because It is populated by posters who enjoy lively discussion and debate about the Redskins. Please, join the discussion but don't think that this site is a rant fest like another site we all know and dislike.


Amen.

I’d add that it makes no sense to let him go and invest elsewhere (as httr says) because leaving Flowers at LT (or any other of their current alternatives) to protect any of our QBs is destined to end up having guys join Alex Smith on a golf cart. And that gets us nowhere.


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I understand that. I'm just tired of kissing the ass of overpaid losers. He might be elite at his position. Yet his elite play at his position hasn't gotten us anywhere. I would much rather invest in the future before I pay this dude another dime extra. He agreed to a contract and he should play it out. What type of guy leaves his teammates hanging? I just want this whole thing to be over as soon as possible.
Save the rah rah crap about letting his team mates down for the kids.

This is professional football. A business.

The Redskins signed a contract with Mason Foster. They cut him a year early, where is your outrage?

Sports contracts are like any other contact.

They simply hold his NFL rights, nothing more nothing less. In business, contracts are breached every day. The Redskins remedy is to withhold his pay, which they will.


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Old 07-28-2019, 06:34 PM   #14
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Save the rah rah crap about letting his team mates down for the kids.

This is professional football. A business.

The Redskins signed a contract with Mason Foster. They cut him a year early, where is your outrage?

Sports contracts are like any other contact.

They simply hold his NFL rights, nothing more nothing less. In business, contracts are breached every day. The Redskins remedy is to withhold his pay, which they will.


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If it's a business, then he should bring his punk ass to TC. Wouldn't that be the professional thing to do? If he wants more money there is a way of going about that. The way he's going about it is disrespectful to this team and the fanbase.

Fuck Mason Foster! We should have got rid of that bum years ago. He's slow as shit and liability in against the run and the pass.
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Old 07-26-2019, 08:06 PM   #15
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Whoever said "Ereck Flowers is a legit backup tackle and/or guard" deserves to be fired. If he was half decent we wouldn't even talking about Donald Penn right now.
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