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When I was young body building and learning to fight or self defense was put forth as solutions to dealing with bullies or attackers. Alarm systems and dogs as a way to protect your home. Now it is guns are the solution to these things and once you accept lethal force as a means to deal with other humans in certain situations than the you see it as an answer to more problems. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-17-2018, 07:33 AM | #3 | |
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02-23-2018, 12:52 PM | #4 | |
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One of the most annoying things for me is seeing one of my douche bag cousins who post pictures of her with her guns or bows lecturing on Facebook the problem is parents knowing she isn't raising any of her kids. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-16-2018, 02:21 PM | #5 |
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Nothing is going to change because guns are seen as a god given right. People care more about themselves than others. And guns as a solution is too grained into too many people.
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02-16-2018, 03:37 PM | #6 |
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Arming the teachers doesn't make sense to me. Placing armed security officers or police in schools does.
Teachers are trained to teach, security and police are trained to secure. Today I've been successful in getting the matter of security in our school district on the agenda for the next school board meeting. After doing rough math, I've estimated that it would cost our school district $400K annually to place one armed security guard at each elementary school, and two at the middle school and two at the high school. That would cover their salaries for 180 days of 8-hour workdays. That $400K works out to $25.61 in annual costs per household for our township. After spending the better part of today organizing a lot of parental interest, I can't wait to be confronted with the question of cost. Show of hands, who thinks $25 per household is too expensive to safeguard our children? $30? $35? Stop me when it gets too expensive to keep our children safe.
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02-16-2018, 04:05 PM | #7 |
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1. I would love to see a plan in place similar to Australia in particular in regards to stricter requirements for registration of firearms and storage of firearms. They have even done stronger restrictions on automatic and semi automatic by decreasing available caliber along with a mandatory buy back. I would like that but am not naive enough to think that is plausible. Interestingly enough gun ownership and the number of guns have not declined in Australia despite the tough regulations.
2. I would also like to see better enforcement of current laws and closing of loopholes like the boyfriend loophole and the gun show loophole. We have legislation in place how about we enforce it and make it work. |
02-23-2018, 12:40 PM | #8 |
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So that good guy with a gun BS should be out the window right? The security guard at the school did nothing.
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02-23-2018, 12:42 PM | #9 |
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02-23-2018, 12:51 PM | #10 | |
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The security guard should be ashamed, and I am sure he is. He was there to save those kids lives and didn't. That doesn't mean that the whole concept of security guards should be thrown out. But I am all for making Capitol Hill a gun free zone, if that is what politicians think keep our kids safest it should be good for them too. After all DC has great gun laws, so they should be perfectly safe. |
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02-23-2018, 01:06 PM | #11 |
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More guns = more problems
Arming teachers is just asinine Now Trump is blaming video games? So guns in a video game are the problem but not the real ones? Brilliant |
02-23-2018, 01:14 PM | #12 | |
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02-23-2018, 02:01 PM | #13 | |
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Yes, imo, the focus should be on looking at personal responibility, and getting help to those who need it, BEFORE, they have set in their hearts to do evil. The Parkland shooting shows us again, the systems were in place to stop it, but the almighty government and the individual guard who were alerted and could have stopped it - failed. It's that simple and tragic. You can ban whatever guns you want, there will always be a way for a person intent on an evil act to accomplish it. HYPOTHETICAL, suppose Nikolas, instead of using a gun, had plowed his car through the parking lot, would you be calling on an end to high schoolers being able to park on school property? Of course not, and driving kills far more people per year than gun violence. And it's not a protected right in the Bill of Rights. |
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02-23-2018, 02:08 PM | #14 | |
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When I was younger you bought a hunting rifle now you buy an assault rifle. When cars are advertised as ways to deal with other people then make laws to reduce that happening. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-23-2018, 02:16 PM | #15 | |
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I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction. We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year. All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have. |
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