Something I never want to hear again:

[Daseal]

Anything dealing with the Redskins not getting any respect or the media bias. I remember this offseason many people here talking about the media bias, and how dare they not pick us for the division, I mean... look at our team.

I hear every year how great the Redskins are going to be, and I fail to see it every year. Face it folks, the media isn't bias. We suck, we have a tradition of sucking, and until we PROVE something we don't deserve an ounce of respect anywhere.

Even when we were playing horrible football in preseason everyone said it didn't matter, and the team was just kidding. Many people blindly said "The score doesn't matter." Which is 100% true. Wins/Losses don't matter in preseason, you judge your team based on performance, and namely that of the starters.

Just something that bothers me every offseason that I figured I'd vent. When the Redskins EARN some respect, then they'll get their due. Until then, we're on the same level as the Browns, Raiders, and Cardinals.

[MTK]

That's fine but I don't recall getting much respect when we won 6 in a row last year. I agree that for the most part that criticisms of the Redskins are justified due to losing, but I refuse to believe that some in the media aren't a bit biased due to their dislike for Dan Snyder.

[dmek25]

im old enough to remember the glory years. and yes, the media was all over our jocks when we were winning super bowls. so daseal, im with you. to get respect, you have to earn respect

[The Zimmermans]

We were picked in the top five by espn, we were so overrated

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's fine but I don't recall getting much respect when we won 6 in a row last year. I agree that for the most part that criticisms of the Redskins are justified due to losing, but I refuse to believe that some in the media aren't a bit biased due to their dislike for Dan Snyder.

Why do you think that is? I believe Dan Snyder brought much of that on himself. Many people see him as the Paris Hilton of the NFL - lots to spend, with little substance or results.

It goes back to what Daseal said, when Snyder's teams start winning, the respect will come. Until then, they have ZERO reason to respect anything he does or the Redskins do.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Anything dealing with the Redskins not getting any respect or the media bias. I remember this offseason many people here talking about the media bias, and how dare they not pick us for the division, I mean... look at our team.

I hear every year how great the Redskins are going to be, and I fail to see it every year. Face it folks, the media isn't bias. We suck, we have a tradition of sucking, and until we PROVE something we don't deserve an ounce of respect anywhere.

Even when we were playing horrible football in preseason everyone said it didn't matter, and the team was just kidding. Many people blindly said "The score doesn't matter." Which is 100% true. Wins/Losses don't matter in preseason, you judge your team based on performance, and namely that of the starters.

Just something that bothers me every offseason that I figured I'd vent. When the Redskins EARN some respect, then they'll get their due. Until then, we're on the same level as the Browns, Raiders, and Cardinals.

Good post. We deserve to be shat upon. Anyone who said we'd stink deserves some kudos for being right, just as Lenny P deserved to eat crow in 2005 when we went 10-6.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's fine but I don't recall getting much respect when we won 6 in a row last year. I agree that for the most part that criticisms of the Redskins are justified due to losing, but I refuse to believe that some in the media aren't a bit biased due to their dislike for Dan Snyder.

Its obvious now that the 6 game streak was an anomily and not a precursor of things to come.

[freddyg12]

I agree & I know others on here do too, as I recall several people posting that we'll get respect once we earn it.
I wouldn't totally discount the notion of media bias though. The media are people too, and when they get snubbed or blacklisted by the Danny it has to affect their judgement of the team. JKC could be a real SOB but he dealt w/the public a lot more & a lot better.
My only significant complaint is that Gibbs didn't get his props last year for our playoff run, whereas the tuna gets all the media accolades but hasn't won a playoff game yet w/the cowpokes. He also had a 6-10 season.
As for Gibbs' 05 offseason & the tuna's draft picks I'll give the tuna credit there.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

More than an anomaly it seems like we did too much in the offseason yet again. Would it be easy to argue that had we been playing smash mouth football and kept a Ryan Clark we'd be right there in the thick of things? Honestly, I think that would have been just enough for the Skins to be playing right now.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's fine but I don't recall getting much respect when we won 6 in a row last year. I agree that for the most part that criticisms of the Redskins are justified due to losing, but I refuse to believe that some in the media aren't a bit biased due to their dislike for Dan Snyder.

Yeah, compare the respect that we got last year versus the praise media pundits are pilling on Phili for doing the exact same thing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Its obvious now that the 6 game streak was an anomily and not a precursor of things to come.

I'm not talking in hindsight, I'm talking about during that winning streak we didn't receive much respect.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Why do you think that is? I believe Dan Snyder brought much of that on himself. Many people see him as the Paris Hilton of the NFL - lots to spend, with little substance or results.

It goes back to what Daseal said, when Snyder's teams start winning, the respect will come. Until then, they have ZERO reason to respect anything he does or the Redskins do.

I'm not debating whether or not people in the media should or shouldn't dislike him. They are certainly entitled to their opinion and of course Snyder has brought a lot of heat on himself.

I just think it's foolish to think there isn't a bias out there.

I also highly doubt that even if the Skins were to win it all that the media would all of a sudden do a 180 and praise Snyder. If anything it would be very reluctant praise, and they would probably look to credit everyone but him for the success.

[djnemo65]

And Daseal, while I agree with you that we do suck and we do deserve criticism, I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that the media roots against us. There's a schadenfreude quality in the glee with which most media pundits outside of DC report and cover our losing. I think that, given our level of success over the last 15 years, as well as the storied history of our franchise and coach, we should have at least gotten a little more good will during our improbable run last year than we did.

[irish]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

And Daseal, while I agree with you that we do suck and we do deserve criticism, I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that the media roots against us. There's a schadenfreude quality in the glee with which most media pundits outside of DC report and cover our losing. I think that, given our level of success over the last 15 years, as well as the storied history of our franchise and coach, we should have at least gotten a little more good will during our improbable run last year than we did.

Why would the media root against or for that matter even care about a team that has 2 playoff appearances in 15 years? They dont. I travel a lot with work and rarely see the redskins mentioned in other cities newspapers because the skins are a losing team and there is nothing to report. The pundits outside DC dont care a hoot aboutthe skins because there is nothing to care about.

I think the redskins did get respect for the 6 game streak by being seriously discussed as a super bowl contender this year. Obviously it was respect they didnt deserve.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Anything dealing with the Redskins not getting any respect or the media bias. I remember this offseason many people here talking about the media bias, and how dare they not pick us for the division, I mean... look at our team.

I hear every year how great the Redskins are going to be, and I fail to see it every year. Face it folks, the media isn't bias. We suck, we have a tradition of sucking, and until we PROVE something we don't deserve an ounce of respect anywhere.

Even when we were playing horrible football in preseason everyone said it didn't matter, and the team was just kidding. Many people blindly said "The score doesn't matter." Which is 100% true. Wins/Losses don't matter in preseason, you judge your team based on performance, and namely that of the starters.

Just something that bothers me every offseason that I figured I'd vent. When the Redskins EARN some respect, then they'll get their due. Until then, we're on the same level as the Browns, Raiders, and Cardinals.

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