Skins v Eagles post game thread

[SmootSmack]

On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Hate to do this but - if there's a scapegoat, it's Alfred Morris.

He was unusually sloppy last night. Lack of a running game early on really hurt. No way RG3 should need to throw the ball 49 times

[Hog1]

I was a little surprised they did not roll Robert out more in some play action looks rather than just a drop back style. We are not really set up for that and it showed......
Like to know why.......I know THEY know
--Fox Mulder

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Hate to do this but - if there's a scapegoat, it's Alfred Morris.

Plenty of scapegoats....the fumble on Morris was bad, the pitch was on RG3, the oline got abused, the safeties were pathetic, RG3 played poorly, D-line and LB's were out of position and Forbath missed a kick....

It's one game but next week sure looks like a must win and Green Bay is thinking the same thing.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He was unusually sloppy last night. Lack of a running game early on really hurt. No way RG3 should need to throw the ball 49 times

I know everyone is wondering why Morris wasn't himself. All you have to ask is- what was different at this time last year? When the New Orleans game came around, Griffin and Morris were sharp and ready to go. Maybe the lack of preseason snaps, maybe distractions and attention to media? Maybe not THE reason, but it all had to play a part. They have to get focused again and remember what got them to the NFC East division champion last season.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I was a little surprised they did not roll Robert out more in some play action looks rather than just a drop back style. We are not really set up for that and it showed......
Like to know why.......I know THEY know
--Fox Mulder

I think it is hard to do roll outs when you have no threat of a running game. DEs will go upfield and blow up the play every time.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He was unusually sloppy last night. Lack of a running game early on really hurt. No way RG3 should need to throw the ball 49 times

That was RG3s "worst game" as a starter people r saying but he ended up with a top 10 QB performance this week. (based on numbers) I think they'll be ok, give it a couple weeks

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Plenty of scapegoats....the fumble on Morris was bad, the pitch was on RG3, the oline got abused, the safeties were pathetic, RG3 played poorly, D-line and LB's were out of position and Forbath missed a kick....

It's one game but next week sure looks like a must win and Green Bay is thinking the same thing.

And right now I would trust Green Bay to respond with a great effort more than I would trust the skins to win the game.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

We beat GB at home a few years back when LL Picked off AR late

Oh you are right and it went to OT. That was the 2010 game. Fawk that screws up my analyst we are DOOMED!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.

I don't think the D was slow it was more that they did not know what was coming. As they figured out what the Eagles were doing the better they looked.

[skinsfaninok]

^lmao I hope not. Did anyone notice the passes Griff was making in the 4th? He looked on point and his last TD pass was beautiful.

[SBXVII]

I was unable to actually see most of the game, but did get to listen to it on the radio. This is my take and perception:

1. OL was bad. could not create holes or running lanes.
2. Morris was rusty. team stuck with him for too long.
3. WR needed plays to help out RG3. curl and slant routes.
4. Defense took too long to adjust to opponent. 4th series they finally used stunts.
5. Script.

Ok, so I'll break it down now.
#1. If I'm the opponent and I know you are going to play your QB who was injured, then I'm thinking...there is a 80-90% chance you are not going to have him running the ball in the first game of the season. So although you might line up in the option...I doubt your going to have him run the ball. So that limits to him handing the ball off to a RB/FB or passing. So I'd plan on stacking the DL and rushing at you every play. (Same thing they used to do to Grossman which is why we picked up McNabb and finally RG3). I'd challenge you to get make the throws and hopefully not give you time enough to get someone open. EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. There were no run lanes cause they were blocked by the rushing DL.

#2. Morris had a bad game. It happens. I might have stuck Helu in for a couple of plays a lot sooner just to see if his "change of pace" would make the defense back off.

#3. Clearly with the defense rushing and forcing RG3 to pass or trying to he didn't have much time. The coaches should have started using 5 yrd curls, 5 yrd slants, and screen plays to slow the defense down and back them up.

#4. I did get to see the first 30 min. on TV. Personally with any film to study and not knowing what they were going to bring our D was going to have a difficult time. But I didn't think they were as bad as I've heard some people say they were. Even the radio announcers mentioned that around the 4th series our D finally started getting pressure cause of the stunts they were using. I was hoping and expecting our D to be on the sideline ready to change people out after every two plays in order to keep people fresh. But this requires the players to be standing on the sideline paying attention and ready to run on the field as soon as the whistle is blown and ready to run off the field as soon as the whistle is blown. There is no time to go sit on the bench.

#5. Almost every team scripts their first 20-30 plays. That usually takes them to halftime. I understand it didn't help that we had 3 turn overs in 7 plays, 1 INT., 1 fumble, and 1 fumble to a safety. However, if you see what the defense if doing and what they are not giving you ... you have to make adjustments. The Redskins didn't make adjustments until halftime in the 3rd quarter.

Having said all this I don't think our season is doomed or busted. Now we have some film on the Eagles. We know what they are planning to do and can adjust for it. Plus we don't see them again until week 11 which gives us more film to see and game plan for as well as see what other teams doing against them.

[firstdown]

I don't like loosing but I think this loss will do more good for RGIII then it will hurt us.

[davy]

Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I know everyone is wondering why Morris wasn't himself. All you have to ask is- what was different at this time last year? When the New Orleans game came around, Griffin and Morris were sharp and ready to go. Maybe the lack of preseason snaps, maybe distractions and attention to media? Maybe not THE reason, but it all had to play a part. They have to get focused again and remember what got them to the NFC East division champion last season.

Morris by all accounts had a great offseason and training camp. I think he just had an off night and wasn't getting great blocking either. 2 fumbles in one game isn't him at all. He'll get back on track no doubt.