Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, I think Haz has always had a lot of respect for Fletch as a player. And I wouldn't say Fletch wouldn't talk to Haz just that things were strained.

I think allowing Fletch to be a bigger part of the game plan has helped. I don't know but it looks like Haz is now coaching/behaving with less insecurity. I don't mean job security necessarily. I mean more like he's willing to listen other coaches/players without feeling it's a knock on his ego.

As I understood it anyway, the tension was more on the offensive side. But you'd have to ask HTTR247 for his own perspective

ahh ... thanks. Maybe I am either (1) remembering it wrong; or (2) something got lost in the translation.

I imagine that, when dealing with talented subordinates, the difference between "I know what I am supposed to be doing - just do what I say" and "Tell me how can we improve?" is a fine line for a coach to walk, like in any management position - but even more so in the hyper-competitive, testosterone driven arena that is pro-football.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

ahh ... thanks. Maybe I am either (1) remembering it wrong; or (2) something got lost in the translation.

I imagine that, when dealing with talented subordinates, the difference between "I know what I am supposed to be doing - just do what I say" and "Tell me how can we improve?" is a fine line for a coach to walk, like in any management position - but even more so in the hyper-competitive, testosterone driven arena that is pro-football.

I'm with you, Joe. I clearly remember the phrase, "Haslett has lost the locker room" being bandied about.

It would appear that he has regained the locker room by setting his ego aside. If so, that's good leadership.

[los panda]

false

Originally Posted by Lotus

Since the word is that Haslett has lost the locker room, he has to go. It will be impossible to get good results while he is here.

Originally Posted by los panda

i'm submitting my vote based on the notion that haslett has lost fletcher, alexander, and wilson (at the very least). fire him now and use the bye to it's fullest potential. morris gets my vote

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1) You have to be an idiot to think they actually hate RG3

2) They've each praised/picked the Redskins many times

3) I believe Golic had them at 7-9 this year, which is better than a lot of fans here predicted

4.) The ranking (RG3-6th) was confidence picks based on their feeling on team's chances to win, not how good the particular QB is vs. another

5.) Off camera, I don't care for Greenberg at all (have said this before)

6. Golic is one of the smartest sports guys (NFL in particular) you'll ever meet. It's a shame that people don't recognize how much he understands about the game

7. If you think this is me just blindly defending something from ESPN because I "used to collect paychecks from them" well fine think what you want to think, just don't throw out bullshit lines likes "they don't like RG3, everyone knows that"

8. I rarely watch/listen to Mike and Mike-not my cup of tea

Greenie comes off as a douche for some reason. Idk I just always figured he was

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, I think Haz has always had a lot of respect for Fletch as a player. And I wouldn't say Fletch wouldn't talk to Haz just that things were strained.

I think allowing Fletch to be a bigger part of the game plan has helped. I don't know but it looks like Haz is now coaching/behaving with less insecurity. I don't mean job security necessarily. I mean more like he's willing to listen other coaches/players without feeling it's a knock on his ego.

As I understood it anyway, the tension was more on the offensive side. But you'd have to ask HTTR247 for his own perspective

Can you explain?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can you explain?

Griffin was frustrated they were throttling the offense down, and felt they didn't trust him enough yet to open it up. He also didn't like the option plays and wanted more of the basic offense.


Not speaking on Smoot's behalf, just paraphrasing the info that HTTR24/7 stated back then.

[SmootSmack]

What I know about independently was some disagreements bw Kyle and Mike. The RG3 aspect you'd have to ask HTTR247

[REDSKINS4ever]

As a longtime Redskins fan, I feel kind of slighted due to the fact that the so-called experts are picking Seattle to beat the Redskins @ Fed Ex Field. I just got through reading a prediction from the Bleacher reports stating that RG3 will throw 2 INTs, Russel Wilson will throw for 3 TDs, and Marshawn Lynch will rush for 125 Yards against our defense.

None of these so-called experts didn't mention the facts. The facts are Washington was 5-3 @ home during the regular season and Seattle was 3-5 on the road this past season. Just about all of the losses by both teams have been by less than a touchdown. This is will be a very close game regardless which was it goes. Of course I'm picking Washington at home by 7 points.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What I know about independently was some disagreements bw Kyle and Mike. The RG3 aspect you'd have to ask HTTR247

Oedipus wrecks.

[CrazyCanuck]

First off I don't like these dirty birds one bit. I hate their coach. I hate their uniforms. I hate their stupid stadium and their stupid fans. 12th man my ass. More like Paul Allen and his George Lucas dolby-digital-piped-in noise.

Secondly we owe these f*^&*&rs. 2005 Carlos drops a pick-6 which would have put us up 10-0. 2007 Suisham misses the field goal that killed all our momentum. It's payback time.

Keys to the game:

1. Stop or at least contain Lynch - obviously we can't let this guy run wild on us.

2. Keep Wilson in the pocket - this is huge. He's not tall and we have good pass tippers like Cofield and Kerrigan. Make him beat us from the pocket. If we let him roll out and run around he will torch our secondary.

3. Keep on Haz-ing and scheming. Let the kid see a different look every down.

4. Keep pounding the rock with Alfie. They might cheat to stop the run but we can't get away from it. Keep pounding.

5. Time to unleash RG3. We need all aspects of his game. RG will not want this Wilson kid coming in and showing him up. I expect RG to play with a chip on his shoulder. Let him loose.

6. Despite the D's success the last few weeks let's remember - WE ARE AN OFFENSIVE TEAM. We must win this game with offense. I almost threw up when we gave the ball back to Romo at 21-18. Had we blown it I would not have blamed the defense. If we keep playing with fire we will get burnt.

GO SKINS!

[CultBrennan59]

I haven't seen this discussed yet, but supposedly back in 07 after ST was killed and we played seattle in the playoffs Seahawk fans were laughing about him being dead and some seahawk fan held up a ST jersey with blood and bullet holes all over it...

Yeah, F this team. I thought better of their fans

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

First off I don't like these dirty birds one bit. I hate their coach. I hate their uniforms. I hate their stupid stadium and their stupid fans. 12th man my ass. More like Paul Allen and his George Lucas dolby-digital-piped-in noise.

Secondly we owe these f*^&*&rs. 2005 Carlos drops a pick-6 which would have put us up 10-0. 2007 Suisham misses the field goal that killed all our momentum. It's payback time.

Keys to the game:

1. Stop or at least contain Lynch - obviously we can't let this guy run wild on us.

2. Keep Wilson in the pocket - this is huge. He's not tall and we have good pass tippers like Cofield and Kerrigan. Make him beat us from the pocket. If we let him roll out and run around he will torch our secondary.

3. Keep on Haz-ing and scheming. Let the kid see a different look every down.

4. Keep pounding the rock with Alfie. They might cheat to stop the run but we can't get away from it. Keep pounding.

5. Time to unleash RG3. We need all aspects of his game. RG will not want this Wilson kid coming in and showing him up. I expect RG to play with a chip on his shoulder. Let him loose.

6. Despite the D's success the last few weeks let's remember - WE ARE AN OFFENSIVE TEAM. We must win this game with offense. I almost threw up when we gave the ball back to Romo at 21-18. Had we blown it I would not have blamed the defense. If we keep playing with fire we will get burnt.

GO SKINS!

I always wondered why they included that hideous neon green in their colors. This year they have accentuated that awful color. It makes me want to barf neon green.

[RedskinRat]

Washington Times game preview

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

As a longtime Redskins fan, I feel kind of slighted due to the fact that the so-called experts are picking Seattle to beat the Redskins @ Fed Ex Field. I just got through reading a prediction from the Bleacher reports stating that RG3 will throw 2 INTs, Russel Wilson will throw for 3 TDs, and Marshawn Lynch will rush for 125 Yards against our defense.

None of these so-called experts didn't mention the facts. The facts are Washington was 5-3 @ home during the regular season and Seattle was 3-5 on the road this past season. Just about all of the losses by both teams have been by less than a touchdown. This is will be a very close game regardless which was it goes. Of course I'm picking Washington at home by 7 points.

I'll admit it this game has me a little scared. But I looked at the Seahawks games vs. the games the Redksins played and the Seahawks were win one against their division lose one against their division, they lost games they should have won and possibly won games they should have lost. Their games don't show that they were battle tested. To me the Redskins had some pretty good teams they played, minus the Eagles twice out of 7 games 5 were difficult teams we played at the end stretch when the team had to win, and lastly the Redskins had more games where the scores were at or close to 30+ or more in the games. The Seahawks seemed to squeak too many games by less then 7 points and the scores were in the teens or low 20's.

Their own HC said they run a pro style offense but started incorporating the option mid season and added a little more each week, but said the Redskins perfected it from the start and run mostly the option. I think we give the Seahawks fits this weekend and the crowd makes it difficult for them.

Redskins: 31
Seahawks: 28

[12thMan]

I know Cofield and Kerrigan have their share of batted passes.