John Beck Era Begins

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Yes, SS is one of the moderators here on the board. He does a damn good job at it too. Its a harder job than people think, you have to tread a fine line between over-kill and lack-a-daisical. I used to be a moderator myself, not here, but on another redskins fan site.

I hate it when posters refer to themselves in the third person

SolidSnake84 · 10-19-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I hate it when posters refer to themselves in the third person

Lol Man thats funny. I mean SS as standing for "SMOOT SMACK" and not myself haha.

But maybe you already get the joke, i can't tell sometimes on here..

SolidSnake84 · 10-19-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You do realize the post you quoted was a joke.

That said - ain't no mod like GMScud Mod. SS is all hype and fluff, ain't like he works for a major sports entertainment company and all that!

Yes i got the joke. We are still joking about it above.

mooby · 10-19-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Lol Man thats funny. I mean SS as standing for "SMOOT SMACK" and not myself haha.

But maybe you already get the joke, i can't tell sometimes on here..

Did you really? Oh man joke's on me. I didn't see that one coming.

irish · 10-19-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Totally agree with the jitters, but honestly the Eagles didn't game plan around him either. They game planned around Grossman a less mobile QB, and we threw in a mobile QB. I think he will play well against the Panthers because their defense sucks, but the games following will be interesting since our OL is a patch work. Plus the better defenses who will game plan around him.

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

skinsfanthru&thru · 10-19-2011, 09:12 PM

Hopefully Beck's accuracy and mobility will be utilized with us calling for more bootlegs. Plus there's no way Hankerson could play any worse than Stallworth except maybe on the special teams side of things so I hope the staff gets him suited up for a game sooner rather than later.

Hog1 · 10-19-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

From what little I have seen of JB, he has a good arm and can deliver on a rope when req'd. Something that troubled Rex....a little to floaty into tight places. He can make all the throws.
He has "get away" and "buy time" speed and (and roll away from L Tackle position) the occasional rushing yardage factor. He looks calm in the pocket and steps up under fire.
IF he can avoid the......"Crazy Gene" we have seen from time to time....perhaps he can do some good stuff.
AND...if not, I'm headed to the Carolina's to find out first hand HOW to run the 2 QB thing from the Ol' Ball Coach..........

GMScud · 10-19-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

I wouldn't go that far. If I'm not mistaken Beck came in with Philly protecting a 14 point lead. Not exactly the kind of lead, especially on the road, where you just shrug your shoulders and write it off to win. Not to mention that lead was created by 4 turnovers by a guy who was no longer in the game.

I'm not full-on Beckwagon, but I don't think in any way whatsoever his successes had anything to do with Philly taking their foot off the gas.

SolidSnake84 · 10-19-2011, 10:46 PM

I've heard that some of the players were publicly backing Grossman. I can think of Fred Davis and Santana Moss as specifics. Do you think some of the players might sand-bag Beck a little bit at first or do you think that kind of stuff doesnt happen in the NFL anymore...

DynamiteRave · 10-19-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I've heard that some of the players were publicly backing Grossman. I can think of Fred Davis and Santana Moss as specifics. Do you think some of the players might sand-bag Beck a little bit at first or do you think that kind of stuff doesnt happen in the NFL anymore...

I feel like they were doing what they're supposed to do as professional, back up the guy to the public regardless of if you think he's good or bad. I think it'd be awful for the locker room if you just threw your QB under the bus to the media.. Remember what happened when Portis decided to bad mouth Sellers? I'm hoping they decided to back Grossman just due to trying to keep drama to a minimum.

I think all the players want what's best for the team... At least I'd hope so.

mlmpetert · 10-19-2011, 11:10 PM

^ Yeah i think that although it comes across to us as the players want Grossman and not Beck, it may be more like they think Grossman wasnt given a fair chance and that the situation is unfair no matter who the starter is. So its not that they necessarily prefer catching passes from one player over another. Theyre just trying to be diplomatic, no chance it causes any players to treat Beck differently then how they otherwise would. Ill also add i think several players were outspoken about the benching of McNabb

SirClintonPortis · 10-19-2011, 11:21 PM

If I recall correctly, Moss came to JC's defense as well(not because of being benched, though).

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

If I recall correctly, Moss came to JC's defense as well(not because of being benched, though).

Moss was easily Rex's favorite receiver so I can understand why he would stick up for him, still it was one of those keep it to yourself type situations.

SFREDSKIN · 10-19-2011, 11:51 PM

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but man what a great kid Andy Dalton is. I'm watching inside the NFL tonight w/ him being mic'd , besides being a pretty good QB, he has a great personality. Cincy is lucky to have him, he would have been a great Redskin.

SmootSmack · 10-19-2011, 11:58 PM

Yeah you called it. I thought maybe you were just showing a bit of TCU/Sammy Baugh bias, but so far so good

Back to Beck. I hope he plays well enough to show people Kyle is talented

10-19-2011, 09:12 PM	#126
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: John Beck Era Begins Hopefully Beck's accuracy and mobility will be utilized with us calling for more bootlegs. Plus there's no way Hankerson could play any worse than Stallworth except maybe on the special teams side of things so I hope the staff gets him suited up for a game sooner rather than later. __________________ "Ahhh, so you're stupid in 3 languages?"

10-19-2011, 10:46 PM	#129
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Re: John Beck Era Begins I've heard that some of the players were publicly backing Grossman. I can think of Fred Davis and Santana Moss as specifics. Do you think some of the players might sand-bag Beck a little bit at first or do you think that kind of stuff doesnt happen in the NFL anymore... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

10-19-2011, 11:10 PM	#131
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: John Beck Era Begins ^ Yeah i think that although it comes across to us as the players want Grossman and not Beck, it may be more like they think Grossman wasnt given a fair chance and that the situation is unfair no matter who the starter is. So its not that they necessarily prefer catching passes from one player over another. Theyre just trying to be diplomatic, no chance it causes any players to treat Beck differently then how they otherwise would. Ill also add i think several players were outspoken about the benching of McNabb __________________ www.NRABannedGunsRaffle.org Last edited by mlmpetert; 10-19-2011 at 11:13 PM.

10-19-2011, 11:21 PM	#132
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: John Beck Era Begins If I recall correctly, Moss came to JC's defense as well(not because of being benched, though). __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

10-19-2011, 11:51 PM	#134
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: John Beck Era Begins I don't mean to hijack this thread, but man what a great kid Andy Dalton is. I'm watching inside the NFL tonight w/ him being mic'd , besides being a pretty good QB, he has a great personality. Cincy is lucky to have him, he would have been a great Redskin. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-19-2011, 11:58 PM	#135
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: John Beck Era Begins Yeah you called it. I thought maybe you were just showing a bit of TCU/Sammy Baugh bias, but so far so good Back to Beck. I hope he plays well enough to show people Kyle is talented __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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