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Old 09-17-2021, 10:26 AM   #106
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Re: Giants postgame

Even though the defense didn't play lights out last night, we still need to give them some credits for preventing Giants from scoring TDs, especially after Heinicke's interception in our own red zone. 5 FGs = 15 pts instead of 5 TDs = 35 points.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:27 AM   #107
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Can we just talk about that insane throw and catch to Seals-Jones? That's a big time play. Big stones by TH and a big time nice catch by RSJ.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:31 AM   #108
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Can we just talk about that insane throw and catch to Seals-Jones? That's a big time play. Big stones by TH and a big time nice catch by RSJ.
I think what's crazy is that the offense can be so much better, that's scary. There's no way we should be out rushed by Danny f*cking Jones when we have Gibson and McKissic. Our team had 87 rushing yard, Jones had 95, that just can't happen.

Back to the TD, yeah that was a sick pass and catch.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:34 AM   #109
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Giants play that soft zone shit, I think Turner thought they could just pitch and catch it underneath all night long and he was right. Gibson could have used a few more carries though especially on the play where TH got picked. He also can't throw into traffic like that.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:35 AM   #110
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Fans were singing HTTR after the game on the postgame show.. hahahahaha!
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:40 AM   #111
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Fans were singing HTTR after the game on the postgame show.. hahahahaha!
Loved that!!
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:41 AM   #112
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Can we just talk about that insane throw and catch to Seals-Jones? That's a big time play. Big stones by TH and a big time nice catch by RSJ.

That was fucking awesome.
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Giants play that soft zone shit, I think Turner thought they could just pitch and catch it underneath all night long and he was right. Gibson could have used a few more carries though especially on the play where TH got picked. He also can't throw into traffic like that.

I don’t think TH saw the defender. He was shielded by someone. I forget who. A linebacker I believe.
I didn’t mind being aggressive there with a throw. I thought we needed at least two more first downs to seal it and it was 2nd and long.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:48 AM   #114
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How many years has it been since our offense and defense both showed up for the same game? It is uncanny. They make it hard on each other. O cant get in rhythm or D cant get off the field. I really thought this was the year we fielded a complete team. So far , not so much.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:51 AM   #115
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Giants play that soft zone shit, I think Turner thought they could just pitch and catch it underneath all night long and he was right. Gibson could have used a few more carries though especially on the play where TH got picked. He also can't throw into traffic like that.
There was an offensive series earlier in the game, I believe when Cosmi got called for the PF. After the penalty, they were 1st and 22, and for some reason they decided to attempt 3 passes in a row, with two of them being long pass attempts.

This is the type of play calling that drives me nuts. You have a lot of offensive talent to either run the ball, throw a screen pass or a short pass to gain some yardage. Not everything has to be a deep bomb.

I think we have too much talent to be one-dimensional, and we have to mix in the run and short passes.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:51 AM   #116
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It was a weak call. He appeared to have too much of a grip on the shoulder pads, but still a questionable call. Equally questionable was the roughing the passer call on Chase in the first quarter. Instead of 3rd and 12 at the 16, the Giants were given 1st and goal at the 8 and would score a TD. So the calls cancel each other out.
I mean there was definitely enough there to throw the flag. It was holding by the definition of offensive holding - using your hands or arms to materially restrict an opponent or alter the defender's path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul regardless of whether the blocker's hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender's body. He absolutely restricted him from making the play on Daniels. You can see his jersey being pulled across his chest.

I'm sure sometimes we don't see that called - and sometimes we do. If that makes it questionable, then I'll have to agree that it was questionable, but I'm ok with getting some of those every once in a while.


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Great win last night. The Giants always come ready to play and WFT pulled it out. 1-1 after two games is a good start. The bad news is that if this team needs to score 30 points to win then there aren't going to be many more upbeat post-game threads.
Wait, where is the upbeat post-game thread?


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It was a great game, we had a bad start but we managed to break through.. You guys covered almost all points, especially about the defense.. So I want to point this out - Gibson averaged 5.3 yds per carry, why didn't Turner use him more in the game?
Like on 2nd and 7 at your own 22 yard line with 2:22 left on the clock and a 1 point lead? Good question. I'd like to hear the answer from Scott Turner on that bonehead call.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:51 AM   #117
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TH Had 3 Big time throws (tight windows that are accurate) and a 75 grade last night. If it wasn't for that INT he would have cleared 80. Pretty damn good..

Danny Dimes has a 90... No surprise
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:52 AM   #118
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I don’t think TH saw the defender. He was shielded by someone. I forget who. A linebacker I believe.
I didn’t mind being aggressive there with a throw. I thought we needed at least two more first downs to seal it and it was 2nd and long.
I think it was one of those throws than an inexperienced QB makes, I think he had his mind made up very quickly he was throwing it no matter what. Since Gibson just came off a nice run for a 1st down I thought they should have kept feeding him. Not a major gripe I'm fine with being aggressive there too.
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Jamin Davis = 89 grade on just 27 snaps.. He was much better this game

CY = 62 Overall grade.. Yikes
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:56 AM   #120
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Haha yeah sorry believe me or feels weird for me too.
I'm usually standing there after loss telling everybody how Mason Foster actually had a good game...
But this D is repeatingly letting us down and I've kinda had a enough.

That's the thing, I think individually some guys played well (CY and Sweat made plays, Allen and Payne too, but the whole DL didn't produce enough. WJ3 had some nice break ups too, but the secondary as a whole sucked ass etc...) And I'm excited about Heinicke.

Not checking out, I'll watch every snap. Heck I might even watch the All 22 of this one... But until they can play 8 consecutive quarters of solid defensive football, my expectations for this season sit just underneath the toilets of the 4th basement of your local supermarket parking lot.

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