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Old 11-04-2019, 03:19 PM   #1
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Hightower is using a strawman fallacy. He's claiming that Casserly said Trent chose not to treat his illness because he wanted more money. Thats not what Casserly said at all. He said Trent didnt heed the specialists advice (presumably not a member of the redskins staff) that he have surgery. Then 3 years later, Trent is asking for more money. One was not related to the other.
What Hightower is saying is that if a doc had explained the severity to him 3 years ago, Trent would not have ignored it. I imagine it was somewhere in the middle, the staff told him he might want to get it checked out just to be safe. It probably wasnt even cancerous when the Skins staff told Trent something about it.

Casserly needs to watch it though. The NFLPA statement was saying he essentially violated HIPAA by using an anonymous source (cough Bruce cough) to disclose Trent's private medical information. The NFLPA statement was also saying they wont stand by and allow one sided "anonymous sources" to be published on the NFL Network to smear an NFL player.

I work peripherally with HIPAA and it only applies to medical organizations doing the disclosure .. so Casserly is not subject to a HIPAA violation but Id bet Bruce may be as part of the Skins and perhaps CBA language.

Authorizations are for allowing authorizations for medically necessary and related purposes, usually to a defined and named parties ... not for being leaked to the media to smear a patient in public.

It all stinks, Bruce sucks, Trent should have been traded and we should be sitting on 2 top 10 draft picks ... instead we get to play the leak game where fans sit around and decide how much or how little to trust each individual anonymous" leak ... one drip at a time.
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Old 11-04-2019, 11:02 AM   #2
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

That Cleveland 1st is looking real good right now. Even the Pats 1st does, allows us to replace the lost 2R in the Sweat move up.

C'est la vie for us.
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:45 PM   #3
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

There are no winners in this fight, Bruce Allen is a loser, Trent Williams should've been traded long ago to the highest bidder, and there is no concrete info available (other than Trent Williams had a mass removed from his scalp) so there is no easy way to pick a side. Everyone is at fault here.

The big thing I blame Trent for is implicating its' the Redskins fault it wasn't taken seriously to start with, and now for backing down when the NFLPA wants to do its' investigation to counteract the Redskins ongoing investigation. How are we supposed to know if there's any truth to Trent's claims if he won't allow the NFLPA to investigate?

If Trent wants to shit-talk the Redskins at every opportunity for how they've handled this, it reflects poorly on him that he won't allow the NFLPA to investigate his accusations. You brought it this far, it has to be allowed to proceed so we can actually determine if the Redskins docs are to blame. The fact Trent doesn't want it to go forward makes me want to believe he's the one to blame for not taking it seriously in the first place.

And now there's nothing left to do except let him sit out the rest of the season and trade him in the offseason. It's terrible handling by both parties that is has been allowed to come this far.
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Old 11-04-2019, 02:06 PM   #4
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There are no winners in this fight, Bruce Allen is a loser, Trent Williams should've been traded long ago to the highest bidder, and there is no concrete info available (other than Trent Williams had a mass removed from his scalp) so there is no easy way to pick a side. Everyone is at fault here.

And now there's nothing left to do except let him sit out the rest of the season and trade him in the offseason. It's terrible handling by both parties that is has been allowed to come this far.
All this. Everyone is a loser in this. Should have never gotten this far but here we are.
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/11/4/...edical-records

What does it mean when one side wants an investigator combing through records and the other side doesn't?
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:27 PM   #6
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https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/11/4/...edical-records

What does it mean when one side wants an investigator combing through records and the other side doesn't?
Williams brought up the medical issue, not the Redskins. Now that the Redskins have made it clear they would welcome a complete and independent investigation by the League and the union, he doesn't want that to happen. How stupid does he think we are? He leveled an accusation and refuses to allow it to be looked into. Sorry, but at every turn he gets more difficult to believe.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:11 PM   #7
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Just a side note here, if TW had been traded...and then failed that team's physical, which seems entirely possible now, then the trade is null and void correct? Meaning...even if they had traded him, they might still be exactly where they are now. A complete f'ng mess.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:18 PM   #8
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Just a side note here, if TW had been traded...and then failed that team's physical, which seems entirely possible now, then the trade is null and void correct? Meaning...even if they had traded him, they might still be exactly where they are now. A complete f'ng mess.
As long as he has a helmet he's comfortable with he won't fail a physical.
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Trent made some pretty serious accusations against the team and for him to not want a full investigation now is just laughable. Trade this guy already.
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Williams brought up the medical issue, not the Redskins. Now that the Redskins have made it clear they would welcome a complete and independent investigation by the League and the union, he doesn't want that to happen. How stupid does he think we are? He leveled an accusation and refuses to allow it to be looked into. Sorry, but at every turn he gets more difficult to believe.
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Trent made some pretty serious accusations against the team and for him to not want a full investigation now is just laughable. Trade this guy already.
Trent Williams needs to be GONE!

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Old 11-07-2019, 07:03 PM   #11
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

Man I wish he was traded. This will now be a daily thing all the way through possibly the start of the draft.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:33 AM   #12
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

Obviously the relationship is broken beyond repair. TW has played his last game in a Redskins uniform.

Looking like BA is being patient and letting things fall. Once the season is over, and the draft order is set, BA needs to let all the teams know he is 'open for business'.

I still think Redskins can get a first round pick for TW. And it will be a better pick than if he was traded mid-season.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:46 PM   #13
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Obviously the relationship is broken beyond repair. TW has played his last game in a Redskins uniform.

Looking like BA is being patient and letting things fall. Once the season is over, and the draft order is set, BA needs to let all the teams know he is 'open for business'.

I still think Redskins can get a first round pick for TW. And it will be a better pick than if he was traded mid-season.
I'll let my wife super kick me in the face if we get a 1st for Trent at this point.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:24 PM   #14
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

Whether it's Trent fault or the Redskins, who comes out looking bad? I have never seen an NFL team that fails at PR like the Redskins do.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:37 PM   #15
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Whether it's Trent fault or the Redskins, who comes out looking bad? I have never seen an NFL team that fails at PR like the Redskins do.
This is all on Bruce...we could put together a Chappelle Show-like "When Winning Off the Field Goes Wrong" series. Its comical.
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