The Haskins Threat

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Did he play for OSU?

JUST CHECKING!

Dude was a bust from jump and we all knew that, we just wanted a little hope. Haskins wont be in the league in 3 years.

[Buffalo Bob]

I don't know where the improvement is the coaches keep talking about. He looked worse than preseason by a country mile. His mechanics even seemed to get worse. Obviously the quicker speed and more confusing defenses of games that count caused the regression.

Don't know where I saw it but back when he was still playing there was a long piece on the development of Steve Young and how Bill Walsh coached him up. He said a QB relies on instincts when they are under pressure. One of Young's biggest faults was to take off running if his first read wasn't open and he saw a running lane. He said he would practice making all his reads, and was getting better at not taking off running too soon, yet when the pressure was on like being down late in a game, he would revert back to quickly looking to run.

Young said not until he practiced good habits over and over and over again to the point of exhaustion did the good habits become his instincts. The amount of repetitions that Walsh made him go through bordered on insanity.

So hopefully Haskins just needs time and obviously lots of it. Nobody thought the dumpster fire that was Steve Young early in his career would end up in the Hall of Fame. I am kind of amazed and how bad Haskins mechanics are.
You can get away with a lot as a college QB when you are lining up with guys who are far superior than the guys on the other side of the ball. Now Haskins is lining up with guys inferior to those defending them and it definitely shows.

[rocnrik]

I’ve seen enough .. if rumors are true and the Haskins pick was Snyder’s idea this may be what it takes for him to step aside hire a real football person to run this team .. I’m sorry I know some are hoping it will work out for the kid but for me I don’t think there is any chance he will succeed in this league.. we will have to wait and see if I am right but it does not look good ... and this is not after 1 game. He has been in the building for 6 months .. As bad as keenum is he is by far the best QB on roster .The entertainment value of this team is all the drama and the storylines not the on field performances.. it is what it is...

[MTK]

Way too early to write him off. He's barely played.

[Buffalo Bob]

Give the kid a chance for Pete's sake. He was able to get away with poor mechanics and a few other things at OSU because of a strong arm and superior teammates. It does appear college coaches don't stress mechanics and techniques these days if players are good enough in other areas to compensate.
It blows my mind when I see guys get to the pros with poor techniques that you would not have seen back in the day.

I kind of look at Haskins as the kid who got straight A's in High School without studying thinking he could do the same in College. When he found out otherwise it took him a while to adapt. I think he will be ok. I base my opinion on he isn't showing the traits that a lot of high draft pick bust QBs have.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I kind of look at Haskins as the kid who got straight A's in High School without studying thinking he could do the same in College. When he found out otherwise it took him a while to adapt. I think he will be ok. I base my opinion on he isn't showing the traits that a lot of high draft pick bust QBs have.

You started off right, but i have a completely different take on that analogy:

Haskins is like a kid who got straight A's in High School without studying thinking he could do the same in College. But when he found out otherwise, he realized he was in way over his head and questioned whether he made a mistake in going to College in the first place.

I do not think he will be ok. I base my opinion on the fact that he isn't showing a single one of the crucial traits that even mediocre high draft pick QBs have - confidence, leadership, effort, and a burning desire to improve.

Its not his performance on the field that makes me feel he is a bust. That can all be corrected with coaching. Its his actions and demeanor off the field. No coach can change that. He's got to want to do it himself, and he clearly doesn't.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I am not sure where you are getting that all the local guys say he is working his tail off in practice. That sounds like a guy who wants to improve to me and is the off the field demeanor I am looking for in an athlete.

[MTK]

The thought of calling a guy a bust after limited action in two relief appearances is just absurd.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

A chance to what? Win and go 2-7? For what? Those players know he is (should be) the future. We have to see what he is or isn’t. He has to keep playing.

A chance to win. Isn't that what they go out to do? This whole notion that they have to find out what we have for next year is a bunch of BS. I think they already know what they have, and that's why he's not starting.

[sdskinsfan2001]

We aren't winning with Keenum either. We are the Dolphins trying a real 2 point conversion play away from being 0-8. I'd rather lose watching Haskins.

My favorite play last night was win Keenum had a guy in the front of the endzone only 5 yards from him and he threw a 90 MPH spitball 2 yards into the ground. There was a penalty so it wouldn't have mattered, but that was terrible.

[Chief X_Phackter]

And that doesn't mean he won't start eventually, he just isn't close to being ready right now.

[Chico23231]

Haskins needs to play period. Get him ready after the bye put in package that will accommodate his strength...it’s absolutely bullshit he can’t run a basic package.

Because BHA is right about the upcoming draft, if there is a can’t miss QB available...you should take him if Haskins just doesn’t have what it takes to be successful. In order to see “it”, Haskins has to play now.

[skinsfan69]

What really bothered me was there was a shot on the sidelines after a offensive series and Ko is sitting down w/ Case, there's Colt also in street clothes and those three were going over stuff. Where was Haskins? He wasn't in on the conversation at all. He's the backup, not Colt. Then I went back to what Lombardi was saying about him and that goes back to the culture thing. Then he goes out there and takes a terrible sack, has a terrible int and could have had another one.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Haskins needs to play period. Get him ready after the bye put in package that will accommodate his strength...it’s absolutely bullshit he can’t run a basic package.

Because BHA is right about the upcoming draft, if there is a can’t miss QB available...you should take him if Haskins just doesn’t have what it takes to be successful. In order to see “it”, Haskins has to play now.

I'm not so sure about that anymore. It's not even fair to the other players if he can't make the right calls that will keep him from getting sacked, or can't get his feet set to make simple throws.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We aren't winning with Keenum either. We are the Dolphins trying a real 2 point conversion play away from being 0-8. I'd rather lose watching Haskins.

My favorite play last night was win Keenum had a guy in the front of the endzone only 5 yards from him and he threw a 90 MPH spitball 2 yards into the ground. There was a penalty so it wouldn't have mattered, but that was terrible.

Case is at least a functioning NFL QB. He isn't a very good one but he can at least do the basic shit and hit open wr's if he has a clean pocket. I almost see why the coaches just don't want Haskins out there. It's just not fair to the other 10 guys.