Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[Big C]

i really wish that dockery would get back in the starting lineup. cant be much worse than what we already have. also, rabach is killing us. stepping on mcnabb 2 times, lots of holding calls, getting overpowered, etc.

mcnabb didnt play a great game, but the o-line and dumb penalties lost us this game (offsides on the field goal attempt, instead of 3 they got 7)

[MTK]

Yeah that penalty on the FG was killer. We had too many shoot ourselves in the foot type plays. Eventually they become too tough to overcome.

[rbanerjee23]

I'm amazed they kept Rabach...that guy is so past his prime it's absurd. Trent Williams did okay, probably not his best day, but an average performance. But compared to the rest of the line he is a pro-bowler.

OL still has to be fixed. Is that really big news? But we have to keep things in perspective, we started over this past offseason so it is going to take a year or two to become decent. Hopefully we learn something from this debacle and continue to improve.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by Hog1

That is a lot to gleen from a staff you have never met, people you don't know and a game I presume you have never participated in at the pro level?
based on one....arbitrary act??

That's what most folks do on forums like this--opine on things that they likely have not done, on people they have not met. If the forum was confined to those who meet the coaches and play the game then I imagine it would be a pretty silent forum.

And it was NOT an arbitrary act. Quite the contrary--Shanahan explained his deliberate reasoning behind it. Which I disagree with. Why do I disagree with it? Because McNabb has offered me evidence of his abilities over the past 12 years as has Grossman over his career. Coupled with the fact that Grossman was cold and the fact that a decision like this typically confuses a team (which many of the Skins' postgame comments seem to already hint to)--this leads me to form my opinion.

But what do I know. I didn't play or coach football. Just like Todd Haley...

[BleedBurgundy]

Hate to use an old warpath-cliche but "Was McNabb responsible for covering megatron?" I have not been impressed with D Mac this year, and I thought he looked horrendous. But... there's not a qb in the league that can play well with the kind of pressure #5 faced today. If i were mike shanahan, each of our interior linemen would be taking a bus home, wouldn't even allow them on the team plane.

If Shanahan wants to switch to Rex, I'm ok with it, but I think the timing of the move was very odd. Last two minutes, with a chance to win is not the time to do make that call. When you factor in that we are heading into a bye week... makes no sense. I really don't like the "Grossman knows the 2 minute offense better than McNabb" excuse either, if anything, the playbook is thinner running the 2 minute drill...

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

The O-Line was so pathetic it didnt matter who the QB was.
Do you even watch the game?

I definetly see why Philly let Mc5 go in a trade to a division opponent and why Denver fired Shanny's ass. Some of us actually believed WE fleeced the Eagles! Some of Mc5's suckage has NOTHING to do with the o-line.

[SUNRA]

For those who are ready to dump McNabb for Grossman in week 8 after an embarrassing O-line performance allowing 5 sacks and God knows how many hurried passes, you need to understand why we are 4-4 going into the bye week. As someone mentioned in another thread, it is too late in the day to argue whether McNabb is the answer in the future for the Redskins. He has proven he can throw 50+ yards in completions more than any QB this year with a new team made up of castaways, rejects, some promising rookies and no real possession Receiver. McNabb needs more than anything pass protection and a playmaker when plays aren't there. This has plagued this team for 10 seasons and still has not been resolved. The bye week should give Terrance Alston some play time and de-activate Joey Galloway. Portis will hopefully return against the Eagles and provide pass protection for a deficient line. McNabb will get it done in time.

[SmootSmack]

We don't really need another thread on this

[SmootSmack]

Pulling McNabb after that interception and then giving the ball to Grossman is like telling aceinthehouse not to start any more threads then handing the laptop to sportsfanatic.

Seriously though, D Mac should start but I can't blame Rex for that fumble really

[mredskins]

i feel like this thread in time will look much like the LL is bust thread, can't wait for that day!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

That's what most folks do on forums like this--opine on things that they likely have not done, on people they have not met. If the forum was confined to those who meet the coaches and play the game then I imagine it would be a pretty silent forum.

And it was NOT an arbitrary act. Quite the contrary--Shanahan explained his deliberate reasoning behind it. Which I disagree with. Why do I disagree with it? Because McNabb has offered me evidence of his abilities over the past 12 years as has Grossman over his career. Coupled with the fact that Grossman was cold and the fact that a decision like this typically confuses a team (which many of the Skins' postgame comments seem to already hint to)--this leads me to form my opinion.

But what do I know. I didn't play or coach football. Just like Todd Haley...

Your indictments of the coaching staff based on nothing but idle speculation is silly.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Your indictments of the coaching staff based on nothing but idle speculation is silly.

Touche. I'll just remain on my side of the fence with those that are also very critical of today's awful coaching decision: Tony Dungy, Rodney Harrison, Trevor Matich, Brian Mitchell, Antonio Freeman, John Riggins. I even think some of them coached and played...

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Actually I think it is complete nonsense. He makes about 48 assumptions on an act that more likely was made "looking for a spark" (as has been mentioned), or to get DM's attention.
Dude is getting sloppy. AND that DOES NOT mean I think DM lost the game for us.
Indicting the coaching staff based on this stuff......is childish.

Not really. The offense has sucked so far. I know a lot is the line, but the last few games it looks disjointed, no fluid rhythm yet. I mean aren't the coaches the ones that will do the actual tinkering to get things right? They need to make adjustments according to what they have personnel wise, so I don't think his prior comment was totally whack. Mike/ Kyle are the ones that are charged with getting the offense straightened out, and if it is a problem with execution, then Mike/Kyle needs to make the corresponding personnel changes. Piss poor play and play calling both can be laid at the feet of the coaching staff. That is why after a crappy season or seasons the coaching staffs are the ones that get the boot.

[Dread-Skin]

Did anyone else read Kyle Shan's lips like he said, "What is he doing- What is that? when McNabb called or setup the play wrong?

This game is a nightmare to sit on for 2 weeks. Im horrified that coach feels Rex is more reliable to run a 2 minute game winning drive over DM.

Where do we go from here? Rex can't be the future- Im not even thrilled for him to be plan B but what Free Agents will be on the market next year?

We needed Torrain bad- Im eager to hear how he is recovering.

[MTK]

The thing about Rex being the better option for the 2 minute drill is BS. It's an excuse, don't look too far into it. DM got benched, simple as that.