Redskins hire offensive consultant

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How does having Hasselback as his QB bother you? Deion, a two-time SB winner, and Bruce Smith who has been to four himself was 9 years ago. We can't let that go?

As for guys like Art Monk, Darrell Green, Clint Didier etc. getting us Superbowls. Before they won a Superbowl they were Santana Moss, Carlos Rogers, Chris Cooley. I guess my point is I don't understand what your point is to ramble off those names from the past.

Its called cherry picking to try and make a point we could also make a list of palyers we had back then that where a bust but I guess that would not fit nice into whatever point he was trying to make. The nice thing about a bust back then there was no cap so you could just get rid of a player without worring about cap space.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by irish

Vinny's not going anywhere no matter what happens.

When Zorn was hired, Vinny told reporters that he had 2 years to succeed or he would be fired.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I really wish we could go 5 minutes without Snyderatto trying to "fix" things. The Redskins are composed completely now of all their various "fixes". How many times have they gone fishing for a RB after the season is underway? It' absurd. I know it's hard to accept when you have control issues, but there's nothing you can do about it now. So stifle yourselves.

Also remember, The Two Bobs came to the conclusion that MANAGEMENT was the real problem. I just wish the Redskins had TPS reports to tie down Vinny so he couldn't engage in these monkeyshines.

Ok, now I'm confused? People complain that the offense is horrible and needs to be fixed. Snyder gives Zorn what...19 games to fix the issues and we are not getting any better. He calls in a consultant to look at maybe the playcalls, when there being called, maybe the look at the WR and see if he can't get anything out of Kelly/Thomas/and maybe Mitchell.

and now we are going to complain that Snyder is meddling again? Help me out here, I would assume the Zorn experement is just about over and Snyder is trying one last thing to spark this so called " Scoring Machine" that Zorn was going to bring to the table. This guys has been in San Fran at the beginning of the WCO. He practically bailed out Holmgren in GB when he was brought in. He's helped out Shanahan and I thought I heard on the radio he helped out Dennis Green. This guy is the Zampese of the WCO and now we want to get upset. OK.

[Trample the Elderly]

Yeah whatever! This reminds me of when they brought in Al Saunders. When they start winning games with authority I'll drink the Kool Aid. Until then I'm going unleaded.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok, now I'm confused? People complain that the offense is horrible and needs to be fixed. Snyder gives Zorn what...19 games to fix the issues and we are not getting any better. He calls in a consultant to look at maybe the playcalls, when there being called, maybe the look at the WR and see if he can't get anything out of Kelly/Thomas/and maybe Mitchell.

and now we are going to complain that Snyder is meddling again? Help me out here, I would assume the Zorn experement is just about over and Snyder is trying one last thing to spark this so called " Scoring Machine" that Zorn was going to bring to the table. This guys has been in San Fran at the beginning of the WCO. He practically bailed out Holmgren in GB when he was brought in. He's helped out Shanahan and I thought I heard on the radio he helped out Dennis Green. This guy is the Zampese of the WCO and now we want to get upset. OK.

I think think in the big picture, this is a decent move. If nothing else, it officially puts Zorn on notice that he needs to get his act together, now, the team can afford to replace him. The ONLY chance Zorn has of saving his job (until the end of the year at least) is to win the next 3 games with solid offensive performances, no dumb play calls, and overall improvement shown each week. Anything less (and that includes a close loss to the panthers [90% certainty], a win over the chiefs [also a 90% certainty], and an impressive win over the eagles on MNF [i'd say 80% certainty given the fact Zorns job will be on the line]), and Zorn is out.

[hail_2_da_skins]

I like the move. Sherman has experience with the West Coast Offense. The offense is moving the ball but not scoring. Maybe what is need is subtle changes.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

When Zorn was hired, Vinny told reporters that he had 2 years to succeed or he would be fired.

That Zorn had two years to succeed?

[hooskins]

lol SS

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think think in the big picture, this is a decent move. If nothing else, it officially puts Zorn on notice that he needs to get his act together, now, the team can afford to replace him. The ONLY chance Zorn has of saving his job (until the end of the year at least) is to win the next 3 games with solid offensive performances, no dumb play calls, and overall improvement shown each week. Anything less (and that includes a close loss to the panthers [90% certainty], a win over the chiefs [also a 90% certainty], and an impressive win over the eagles on MNF [i'd say 80% certainty given the fact Zorns job will be on the line]), and Zorn is out.

I doubt that Lewis will contribute much over the next 3 weeks. The goal, I think, would be to let him evaluate up until the bye week, then help implement any changes he suggests, (including firing Hixon, as sad and tragic as that would be)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

lol SS

What? You think I'm funny? How am I funny? Do I amuse you...like a clown?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

The core of the problem is that the Skins just dont have the talent. This addition wont hurt but I dont look for much difference since its still the same players that have proven over and over that they just dont have it.

You know, I've heard the 'talent' excuse a bunch and I know we don't have top notch players on the OL or at WR but that's where I expect a coach to excel. Ok, you've given me this, now I have to make the best of it. I refuse to believe that 14 points per game is the absolute BEST that can be coaxed out of our offensive talent. That's where Zorn continues to fall short IMO and hopefully Lewis can help him past it.

Unfortunately, the pessimist in me thinks that Zorn will listen to what Lewis says but do what he wants to anyways because he's stubborn. I don't get the sense that he's willing to alter what he believes despite overwhelming evidence in his face to dispute it. Before this week, all I heard from him was 'my play calls were good, the execution lacked' so now we think that an outside source is going to come in and tell him his calls were hot garbage and he's gonna agree and change?

I hope to be proven wrong, I truly do, but I realistically think Shanahan's got his bags packed and his staff already in mind. Conspiracy theory of the day, Zorn is fired at the bye week, Blache (who I think is in his last year of his contract) is named HC, Lewis OC, both are 'interviewed/Rooney'd' before the holidays, Shanahan is named the new HC the Monday following the season finale.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

I like the move. Sherman has experience with the West Coast Offense. The offense is moving the ball but not scoring. Maybe what is need is subtle changes.

Only in the 3rd quarter.

[SmootSmack]

Agree with much of what you say there Pain.

Blache's impassioned speech the other night almost seems now like it was as much about telling VC and Snyder "put it on me. I'll take over this team for the second half of the season."

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That Zorn had two years to succeed?

No, that Cerrato did. Cerrato said Snyder was giving him two years in his current role. After that, he'd be removed from his current position (and in my opinion, move to some other, non-operational aspect of the franchise).

[diehard]

Long overdue.