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Old 11-13-2009, 05:21 PM   #1081
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JC has the slowest release of all the QBs in the NFL! No, I take that back...What he is is indecisive about who he wants to throw to. So it takes a long time for him to make up his mind. It'll be interesting to compare JC to KO this Sunday.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:46 AM   #1082
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UPDATED stats/assessment...Campbell the only of these 3 QBs to win!

Cutler:
WK 10 - 29/52 (55.8%), 307 yds, 0 TD, 5 INT, 33.6 rating, 2 rush yds
TOTAL: 211/338 (62.4%), 2,353 yds, 14 TD, 17 INT, 76.0 rating, 111 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 10 - 16/30 (53.3%), 212 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT, 59.3 rating, 0 rush yds
TOTAL: 130/244 (53.3%), 1,655 yds, 9 TD, 12 INT, 66.5 rating, 60 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 10 - 17/26 (65.4%), 193 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 100.3 rating, 15 rush yds
TOTAL: 168/254 (66.1%), 1,870 yds, 10 TD, 8 INT, 87.9 rating, 158 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell (66.1%), Cutler (62.4%), Sanchez (53.3%)
Yds = Cutler (2,353) Campbell (1,870) Sanchez (1,655)
TDs = Cutler (14), Campbell (10), Sanchez (9)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (8), Sanchez (12), Cutler (17)
QB rating = Campbell (87.9), Cutler (76.0), Sanchez (66.5)
Rush yds = Campbell (158), Cutler (111), Sanchez(60)


Week 10 Campbell overview:
JC was the only of the three QBs whose team won in Week 10. He was also the only who had a good game, finishing with a TD and no INTs, 65% completions and a passer rating over 100. Cutler and Sanchez both had horrible games again. Cutler put up some yards with over 300, but had a low completion %, no touchdowns and FIVE (5) interceptions! Sanchez had yet another inaccurate, low-yardage game with more INTs than TDs as he continues to be unimpressive, even with the addition of Braylon Edwards. Campbell still leads in every stat category except for yards and TDs, but he has less than half of the interceptions as Cutler, who cancels out all of his TDs and then some with 14 TDs and 17 INTs.

Campbell is the NFL's 16th-highest rated passer, ahead of hyped QBs like Matt Ryan (20th), Jay Cutler (22nd), Matt Cassel (23rd), Mark Sanchez (27th). Campbell is just behind Eli Manning and Carson Palmer in the rankings and every one of the QBs ranked ahead of him are Pro Bowl-caliber, household names. Given the whole offense's struggles, the offensive line problems he's had to endure, losing his biggest-name playmakers in Portis and Cooley, I think Jason is doing more than an aqdeuate, but a quality job running the offense to the best of his abilities. It's clear that he's a better choice than Cutler and especially Sanchez.

Now on to beat Dallas.


Still looking like we made the right choice.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:51 AM   #1083
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About frigging time they moved the pocket around. There are ways to scheme around a poor Offensive line. I've been saying it here for over a year, damnit! They finally showed it in the second half. Roll out Campbell, throw screens, run draws, etc. You can't eliminate all sacks, but what team can?

I really like the shotgun look within the 5. About damn time for that as well. Must be a Sherm thang.
Thrilled with the way the offense has played since Sherm took over the calls!

Our line was bolstered slightly with Levi Jones and Rhinehart this week and they played well surprisingly, opening holes for Betts and protecting JC much better. They're not long-term answers but finally we have something resembling a competent line. I hope it continues. It if does, Campbell will by far be the clear choice of the 3 QBs we considered and would deserve to be brought back next year with some additions to the line.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:52 AM   #1084
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Are we really still comparing these guys?
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:57 AM   #1085
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Did anybody expect Sanchez to be probowler this season or lead his team to the playoffs? I think a fairer comparison would be to look a Sanchez after his second or third year...Cutler is a fair comparision
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:06 PM   #1086
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Thrilled with the way the offense has played since Sherm took over the calls!

Our line was bolstered slightly with Levi Jones and Rhinehart this week and they played well surprisingly, opening holes for Betts and protecting JC much better. They're not long-term answers but finally we have something resembling a competent line. I hope it continues. It if does, Campbell will by far be the clear choice of the 3 QBs we considered and would deserve to be brought back next year with some additions to the line.
I just don't get your man love for JC. I mean I love the guy too but I'm not blind when it comes to judging him. His stat line looked fine yesterday. But he just doesn't do anything consistently well enough to win you a game or be a top QB. It's the same things w/ him....sloppy footwork, inaccurate, skiddish in the pocket, can't come off to his 2nd and 3rd wr's...and so on. I'm fine w/ bringing the guy back but we'd better bring in some serious competition and have Colt compete for the job too.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:06 PM   #1087
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So for all of JC's stats and all, is there EVER going to be a time that he hits Moss when he's wide the fuck open ?
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:10 PM   #1088
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UPDATED stats/assessment...Campbell the only of these 3 QBs to win!

Cutler:
WK 10 - 29/52 (55.8%), 307 yds, 0 TD, 5 INT, 33.6 rating, 2 rush yds
TOTAL: 211/338 (62.4%), 2,353 yds, 14 TD, 17 INT, 76.0 rating, 111 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 10 - 16/30 (53.3%), 212 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT, 59.3 rating, 0 rush yds
TOTAL: 130/244 (53.3%), 1,655 yds, 9 TD, 12 INT, 66.5 rating, 60 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 10 - 17/26 (65.4%), 193 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 100.3 rating, 15 rush yds
TOTAL: 168/254 (66.1%), 1,870 yds, 10 TD, 8 INT, 87.9 rating, 158 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell (66.1%), Cutler (62.4%), Sanchez (53.3%)
Yds = Cutler (2,353) Campbell (1,870) Sanchez (1,655)
TDs = Cutler (14), Campbell (10), Sanchez (9)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (8), Sanchez (12), Cutler (17)
QB rating = Campbell (87.9), Cutler (76.0), Sanchez (66.5)
Rush yds = Campbell (158), Cutler (111), Sanchez(60)


Week 10 Campbell overview:
JC was the only of the three QBs whose team won in Week 10. He was also the only who had a good game, finishing with a TD and no INTs, 65% completions and a passer rating over 100. Cutler and Sanchez both had horrible games again. Cutler put up some yards with over 300, but had a low completion %, no touchdowns and FIVE (5) interceptions! Sanchez had yet another inaccurate, low-yardage game with more INTs than TDs as he continues to be unimpressive, even with the addition of Braylon Edwards. Campbell still leads in every stat category except for yards and TDs, but he has less than half of the interceptions as Cutler, who cancels out all of his TDs and then some with 14 TDs and 17 INTs.

Campbell is the NFL's 16th-highest rated passer, ahead of hyped QBs like Matt Ryan (20th), Jay Cutler (22nd), Matt Cassel (23rd), Mark Sanchez (27th). Campbell is just behind Eli Manning and Carson Palmer in the rankings and every one of the QBs ranked ahead of him are Pro Bowl-caliber, household names. Given the whole offense's struggles, the offensive line problems he's had to endure, losing his biggest-name playmakers in Portis and Cooley, I think Jason is doing more than an aqdeuate, but a quality job running the offense to the best of his abilities. It's clear that he's a better choice than Cutler and especially Sanchez.

Now on to beat Dallas.


Still looking like we made the right choice.
Thanks for doing this every week Buster.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:11 PM   #1089
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I just don't get your man love for JC. I mean I love the guy too but I'm not blind when it comes to judging him. His stat line looked fine yesterday. But he just doesn't do anything consistently well enough to win you a game or be a top QB. It's the same things w/ him....sloppy footwork, inaccurate, skiddish in the pocket, can't come off to his 2nd and 3rd wr's...and so on. I'm fine w/ bringing the guy back but we'd better bring in some serious competition and have Colt compete for the job too.
I don't get people's hate for him. I still hear people on here stating they'd still rather have Cutler or Sanchez, which amazes me. Campbell is performing better with less to work with and he still gets torn down. If you didn't notice, he's the only of the 3 QBs who played a good game this week and also the only one of the three whose team won!

This nonstop hatred for him is what keeps me up for tracking this all year long. He could throw 4 TDs and people would still manufacture excuses as to why he's not to be given credit and why he should be benched for the elderly Todd Collins or the inexperienced QB on IR named Colt Brennan.

Also, I don't get why people are shocked I'm posting this for another week. I have stated EVERY week that I'm doing this stat tracking and analysis all season long and have been supported and thanked by several members, yet every week, the response it "WHY ARE YOU STILL DOING THIS!?
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:13 PM   #1090
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So for all of JC's stats and all, is there EVER going to be a time that he hits Moss when he's wide the fuck open ?
Moss hasn't exactly been playing up to his abilities either...he's made some big drops and boneheaded plays this season. Most of the Redskins have not lost heart and drive, but Moss appears to be one of them who have, along with Landry. It's a shame, Santana has the game to be a huge contributor, but looks like he's slacking this season.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:14 PM   #1091
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Did anybody expect Sanchez to be probowler this season or lead his team to the playoffs? I think a fairer comparison would be to look a Sanchez after his second or third year...Cutler is a fair comparision
If we had drafted Sanchez, his putrid stats would be on our box scores. People were saying they wanted him over Campbell, so it's fair to compare them this season because he'd be our starter if we had made the stupid mistake to replace Campbell with him.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:19 PM   #1092
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I just don't get your man love for JC. I mean I love the guy too but I'm not blind when it comes to judging him. His stat line looked fine yesterday. But he just doesn't do anything consistently well enough to win you a game or be a top QB. It's the same things w/ him....sloppy footwork, inaccurate, skiddish in the pocket, can't come off to his 2nd and 3rd wr's...and so on. I'm fine w/ bringing the guy back but we'd better bring in some serious competition and have Colt compete for the job too.
I don't understand your love for Colt Brennan.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:32 PM   #1093
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Here's my deal with Jason Campbell right now...

He's awfully inconsistent. Has a superb first drive in yesterday's game (which everyone seems to ignore) and had a horrible middle of the game, and a decent ending. He's a mediocre most of the time, average at best. He is no longer the QB of the future for this team and he's not going to be a Pro Bowler.

That being said, he's not going away anytime soon unless he a.) gets hurt or b.) has a TERRIBLE performance and gets benched (which already happened once). So really there is no point in bitching at him every single time he breathes. He is going to go away at the end of the season, either to the 2nd string or to another team.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:34 PM   #1094
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The biggest excuse for JC the past few yrs has been his changing of systems yet this whole thread is devoted to comparing him to 2 QB's who are each on a new team and in a new system. Wow.
Why waste the time and effort when its clear that he is gone after the season? IMO If Levi plays like he did yesterday that dooms JC even more because now DS and the FO can feel free to go after a bradford or another top QB in the draft instead of a top OT.
Yeah if you just look at the stats you will say he was solid but for those who saw the game they will tell you he made some plays and missed some big plays. Not what you want to see from a former 1st rounder,you expect him to make those throws.
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