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Old 10-09-2013, 04:53 PM   #1
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Even McCain knows it's his own party's fault. More specifically, he's calling out the Tea Tards.

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How is it that Obama and the Democrats are at fault again if they had a deal in place months ago and Boehner and his cronies reneged on it?
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It's like the GOP can't get out of their own way.
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Old 10-12-2013, 05:35 PM   #5
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I saw this the other night and thought those poor as people in those states truely dont have a voice.

The bottomline argument is that if you dont have health care and go to any medical facility for help, you will get the treatment you need, even if you cant afford it. Then those costs are just spread to everyone in the who does have coverage or the tax payers of that state. So what sense does it make to do nothing and continue down the same path?

Folks, GDP right now accounts for something like 16.5% and is rising at the fastest rates ever in the last 15 years for all health care, most modern countries its around 10-12%. We need to do something and the GOP have offered no serious alternatives.
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So I'm down in Nags Head fishing in a tournament and a large section of the beach was shut down because its considered a national park. All the beaches around the park did just fine without the governments leadership not sure why they think we need them to go to the beach in the first place. F*ck the Federal Government it can stay shut for all I care. I'm tired of them acting as they can control us 24/7. Maybe other people will realize they don't need the government to hold their hand for everything they do.
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So I'm down in Nags Head fishing in a tournament and a large section of the beach was shut down because its considered a national park. All the beaches around the park did just fine without the governments leadership not sure why they think we need them to go to the beach in the first place. F*ck the Federal Government it can stay shut for all I care. I'm tired of them acting as they can control us 24/7. Maybe other people will realize they don't need the government to hold their hand for everything they do.
FD, I was suppose to go camping in the national park this weekend obviously canceled cause of the shutdown. But you cant privatize national parks because the next thing you know it would go all to hell.
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FD, I was suppose to go camping in the national park this weekend obviously canceled cause of the shutdown. But you cant privatize national parks because the next thing you know it would go all to hell.
Its a beach like all other beaches that are not federal parks. They even were blocking people from going up to the Wright Brother Memorial. I can see the museum but this is just a memorial on a hill.
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Its a beach like all other beaches that are not federal parks. They even were blocking people from going up to the Wright Brother Memorial. I can see the museum but this is just a memorial on a hill.
What if someone wants to commit a crime at the memorial? Vandalize the memorial? We need personnel to be watching such spots but those folks are all out of jobs. That's why parks and memorials stay closed.

Don't you lock the doors of your house when you are not going to be at home? Same idea.
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What if someone wants to commit a crime at the memorial? Vandalize the memorial? We need personnel to be watching such spots but those folks are all out of jobs. That's why parks and memorials stay closed.

Don't you lock the doors of your house when you are not going to be at home? Same idea.

Really that's your argument. The WWII memorial has no doors its open unguarded 24/7 and the beach I was talking also has no doors. I guess someone could steal a shell or two.
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Rallier tells Obama to ‘put the Quran down’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

When the right aligns themselves with wackos like this I just shake my head. This guy is a flat out nut.
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Rallier tells Obama to ‘put the Quran down’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

When the right aligns themselves with wackos like this I just shake my head. This guy is a flat out nut.
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Rallier tells Obama to ‘put the Quran down’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

When the right aligns themselves with wackos like this I just shake my head. This guy is a flat out nut.
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Chris Van Hollen Busts GOP For Secretly 'Altering' Law To Facilitate The Shutdown (VIDEO) | Liberals Unite




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Late in the evening on September 30, 2013, the House Rules Committee Republicans changed the Rules of the House so that the ONLY Member allowed to call up the Senate’s clean CR for a vote was Majority Leader Eric Cantor or his designee — all but guaranteeing the government would shut down a few hours later and would stay shut down. Previously, any Member would have had the right to bring the CR up for a vote.
Still think this is the Democrats doing? Don't those moderate Republicans know they are going to lose their spots in the house? Sure, some of those Tea Tards gerrymandered their district ensuring their re-election, but many are locations where they could (and probably will) be voted out.
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Still think this is the Democrats doing? Don't those moderate Republicans know they are going to lose their spots in the house? Sure, some of those Tea Tards gerrymandered their district ensuring their re-election, but many are locations where they could (and probably will) be voted out.
Moderate Republicans have gone along out of fear of the Tea Party's deep pockets. The fear is that an angry TP will run someone hard at them in next year's Republicans primaries. It's elephant-on-elephant squabbling.
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