Is it finally time to rebuild??

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Orton doesn't suck, the Bills will take a QB, and don't be suprised if Cincy does also.

[theJBexperience]

Did we make any moves last offseason to make us a better team? We brought in a lot of new guys that haven't helped much. In my opinion, Williams & Banks were the only good moves our FO made. Based upon this season and his time in Tampa, I'm not sure Bruce Allen will do a good job rebuilding.

[SmootSmack]

So we've already written off Torain, K Williams, Capers, Cook, Riley, Austin?

[SkinzWin]

SmootSmack, how much of an impact do you think Capers and Cook can have next year being on the practice squad almost all of this year? Is it normal for guys who don't make the team their first year to come back and actually have an impact for a team?

[Gmanc711]

I dont know if this is common knowledge or not yet, but its offical that for the 2011 draft, New Orleans gets our 3rd and Philadelphia our 4th...

[drew54]

Don't forget New Orleans gave back a 5th rounder too.

So as it stands right now draft pics are

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2
5
5 Saints
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6/7 Colts (Justin Tryon)
7

[MTK]

Originally Posted by drew54

Don't forget New Orleans gave back a 5th rounder too.

So as it stands right now draft pics are

1
2
5
5 Saints
6
6/7 Colts (Justin Tryon)
7

add in some picks for AH and DM and it's not looking too bad at all

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So we've already written off Torain, K Williams, Capers, Cook, Riley, Austin?

Sorry, I have. Torain & Williams because it seems like you can plug anyone in at RB except for Larry Johnson & Willie Parker and get good results. I think RB is still a position we need to address. If it weren't for Torain's injury problems though. I think he was a good move.

I don't know about Capers & Cook. As bad as they looked in the preseason, they would have to improve drastically. With our poor OL, the fact that they've been stuck on the practice squad doesn't encourage me much either.

Same sort of thing for Austin. As bad as our WR corps has been and he's not on the field?

Still haven't forgiven Riley for costing us that game. I think he'll be a nominal starter at best in this league.

Obviously, you need to give rookies time, but I'm more discouraged about not bringing in quality veterans.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

SmootSmack, how much of an impact do you think Capers and Cook can have next year being on the practice squad almost all of this year? Is it normal for guys who don't make the team their first year to come back and actually have an impact for a team?

I like Capers, so so on Cook. Being on the practice squad for a year is not the kiss of death.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Orakpo, Landry, Fletcher, T. Williams, Moss, Cooley, and Torain should be the only players that are locked in next year as starters with this team (and Banks on special teams). The rest of the positions are wide open to being replaced with young talent. We really have no area of strength on this team. For the draft I think we should use either the 1st or 2nd round pick on an offensive lineman but besides that choose the best available players regardless of position because they can be starters on this team. Say we draft at #8, what position could we possibly be upset about if they make a selection there? (originally i wanted both 1st/2nd picks on o-lineman but after watching more games we need help EVERYWHERE!)

[SirClintonPortis]

Whoops, wrong thread.

[SmootSmack]

Riley's having a strong game...for those of you who have already quit on him

[drew54]

I think the thing that frustrates me the most is that when you trade for a guy like McNabb you say, "We can win now." There never should have been that attitude coming into a decade long dumpster fire, that even Joe Gibbs couldn't put out.

Step one, admit you have a problem. Snyder did that last year, and Shanahan is doing it this year.

After watching Rex today, it is more painful that we traded for McNabb.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Riley's having a strong game...for those of you who have already quit on him

If he doesnt make the probowl this year, he's a bust in my book.


In all seriousness, he could probably step in next year and do just as a good a job as Rocky. Cept Rocky probably gonna want 10-13 guaranteed this offseason, I would pass and start Riley or take that 10-13 give it to a better player(s).

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by drew54

I think the thing that frustrates me the most is that when you trade for a guy like McNabb you say, "We can win now." There never should have been that attitude coming into a decade long dumpster fire, that even Joe Gibbs couldn't put out.

Step one, admit you have a problem. Snyder did that last year, and Shanahan is doing it this year.

After watching Rex today, it is more painful that we traded for McNabb.

At the time though, trading for McNabb, rebuilding or not, was thought to be a relatively good deal. Ideally, you'd like to keep your picks; but most everybody viewed Dmac as a guy who knew how to win, wasn't 'over the hill'-type old, and gave the team solid veteran leadership.

Outside of Andy Reid, I'll bet there wasn't anybody in the league who could have envisioned how bad he turned out to be.