Roy Williams (WR) for a 2nd Round Pick?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why?

Because Hacket can only play PG during the pick up Basketball games and thats Santana Moss's position. We're looking for a SG.

However in all seriousness take a look at him DirtySkin21. The guys huge for a WR. I thought that he looked like a TE in the first few pics:
YouTube - D.J Hackett Tribute

The guy has the right combination of production and size IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtyskin21

because I have heard hackett will want like 14 million in guaranteed money and there is NO way he's worth that IMHO.. but that's just me

So do you not want Hackett because of the money, or because he's "only 6'2"?

[Dirtyskin21]

^^

I think a little bit of both.. I dont know maybe it's me but if we are going to pay a guy, and we want a BIG receiver... we should at least try and land a WR that's tipping 6'4''..

Like we could sign Ernest Wilford for way cheaper than that and he's 6'4'' and runs a 4.38 - 40 and he's 220lbs and he's from the area and went to school at VT.. He could be had for cheap and could make a HUGE impact but I dunno, I think hackett could be a good signing for a potential number 2 if we can't sign anyone better for around tht same price..

[Dirtyskin21]

just like this drayton florence mess, he's not better than smoot, So i dont see why we are interested? he's gonna want wayy too much money for what he's worth..

He's def not better than rogers and springs and I think Smoot, Rogers, and Springs are VERY close in talent, but Rogers potential is way better than Springs. As he is declining and Smoot looks to be playing that solid 2nd or 3rd cb role.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Dirtyskin21

^^

I think a little bit of both.. I dont know maybe it's me but if we are going to pay a guy, and we want a BIG receiver... we should at least try and land a WR that's tipping 6'4''..

Like we could sign Ernest Wilford for way cheaper than that and he's 6'4'' and runs a 4.38 - 40 and he's 220lbs and he's from the area and went to school at VT.. He could be had for cheap and could make a HUGE impact but I dunno, I think hackett could be a good signing for a potential number 2 if we can't sign anyone better for around tht same price..

Well those numbers are great and all but look at the production. Wilford's yards per game numbers aren't as good as Hacket's. Just because we need a big Reciever doesn't mean we need the BIGGEST reciever. Hacket is also familiar with the system that Zorn's going to run. On top of that scouts around the league feel that Hacket has the potential to be a #1 reciever. Wilford on the other hand looks to me like a career #2 guy.

[Dirtyskin21]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Well those numbers are great and all but look at the production. Wilford's yards per game numbers aren't as good as Hacket's. Just because we need a big Reciever doesn't mean we need the BIGGEST reciever. Hacket is also familiar with the system that Zorn's going to run. On top of that scouts around the league feel that Hacket has the potential to be a #1 reciever. Wilford on the other hand looks to me like a career #2 guy.

Wilford will come way cheaper than hackett and the jags runs a west coast style offense too so that's not a problem. We need a posession receiver, and a good number 2 would be perfect. I haven't heard anything saying we needed a number 1, I just heard we need a compliment to santana and I think wilford would be just that..

Not only is he big but he's fast and just because his YPC isn't that great doesnt mean anything, the jags have had a crazy qb situation with injuries and cuts and everything so no wonder his numbers havent been the best..

DO you honestly think Hackett is a better WR than Santana? I agree he didnt have the best season last year but he was injured and we have ayoung QB and all that. I just think we could sign Wilford and then tend to other more pressing needs that are going to be addresed. But I dont see the problem in bring in both of them but dan shouldnt pay him 14 mil guaranteed or hes a fool.

[redsk1]

There's more rumors out there that Roy Williams is on the trading block.

I'm a firm believer in the Skins building thru the draft, but I'd have to seriously think about trading our #1 for RW. Now, i'm not sure what kind of contract he'll want or get, but that would be my main concern. Somehow, if they could work it out...it would be tempting. Rumor has it he can be had.

[SmootSmack]

Roy Williams may not like it here.

Roy Williams, a Pro Bowler last year, didn't think the Lions receivers were a good fit in the West Coast scheme, either.

"We had tall, fast receivers, not Jerry Rice types," he says. "We had the Randy Moss type of guys who stretched the field, and that's what we wanted to do. That's what Joey wanted to do. He didn't always want to dink and dunk, but that's what the West Coast is — higher-percentage balls."

Flashback: Joey Harrington says he was handcuffed by Lions | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

[Poppa P]

it would be great to a big solid receiver. shake it up!

[CPAlltheWay012]

the eagles made an offer to him today:

It was reported on a Detroit radio station that the Eagles have offered CB Lito Sheppard, and their 2008 2nd/4th/6th rounders for Roy Williams. An agent who doesn't represent Roy, said " Roy is definitely on the block "

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by CPAlltheWay012

the eagles made an offer to him today:

It was reported on a Detroit radio station that the Eagles have offered CB Lito Sheppard, and their 2008 2nd/4th/6th rounders for Roy Williams. An agent who doesn't represent Roy, said " Roy is definitely on the block "

on the lions part that would be a tough deal to pass on.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by CPAlltheWay012

the eagles made an offer to him today:

It was reported on a Detroit radio station that the Eagles have offered CB Lito Sheppard, and their 2008 2nd/4th/6th rounders for Roy Williams. An agent who doesn't represent Roy, said " Roy is definitely on the block "

Holy crap, other than the fact that Lito is done, that's a good deal for them.

[Ruhskins]

I kinda want to see the Redskins get involve with this...but how much will it cost them? It appears from the Eagles offer that a 2nd round pick wouldn't be enough.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I kinda want to see the Redskins get involve with this...but how much will it cost them? It appears from the Eagles offer that a 2nd round pick wouldn't be enough.

Hackett is all we need, and if desperate, B. Johnson. Williams is too much $$$ and we can draft a youngster who will be as good or better than Williams in the future. He is a former first round pick and will want to be compensated by someone who can afford him.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

Hackett is all we need, and if desperate, B. Johnson. Williams is too much $$$ and we can draft a youngster who will be as good or better than Williams in the future. He is a former first round pick and will want to be compensated by someone who can afford him.

The Redskins are not interest in B. Johnson according to the Wash Post's JLC, and they've only made minimal contact with Hackett's agent.. I'm just concern about having the NFC East teams with big time receivers...and we're sort of behind...I mean no offense to Santana, he's a good player and all...but he hasn't been much of a factor. I just would hate for us to stick with our current receivers while the Giants have Plax, Cowgirls TO, and if the Eagles were to land Roy Williams or even Fitz