Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


ST Murder Investigation Thread

Locker Room Main Forum


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-30-2007, 02:49 PM   #91
Riggo44
The Starter
 
Riggo44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Clemente CA
Age: 51
Posts: 2,390
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan View Post
Here's an email I just sent to Wilbon that I'm sure he'll never read. But hey, JLC read my email yesterday and put it up on his blog so maybe there's a chance.

Mr. Wilbon,
I'm sure you have gotten a tremendous amount of email and I suspect you'll never read mine. I actually thought that your column made some good points, and was probably less offended by it than many Redskins fans were. What was offensive, however, was how you said you were not surprised at all when you heard of Sean Taylor's death. I follow the Redskins as closely as anyone I know and I was shocked. I can see how you could say that if you heard someone on the Redskins was shot you might think immediately of Sean Taylor, but to say you were not at all surprised? Come on. Also, as the story is currently playing out (and maybe I'm rushing to judgement as quickly as you did) it seems that the stock narrative that you and other writers overlaid on this story does not fit. If this just was a case where some guys thought they could get some money or valuables, did not think anyone was at the house, were surprised when they found Taylor there, got scared and fired two fatal shots into the night before running away, then how do you explain that?

I can understand, somewhat, your initial reaction, but do you think that you too quickly imposed your own narrative on these events? So Sean Taylor made some bad choices (and really one bad choice that involved anything other than immaturity that we know of, and you have not offered any others that I have heard), but he moved away from his old neighborhood, he did not go out, he devoted himself to the game of football, he did all the right things. He did all the things that you say athletes should do AFTER Sean Taylor's murder. He was doing all that, he was living life the right way. So you're telling me his mistake was buying a house in a wealthy suburb of Miami rather than a wealthy suburb of Washington, D.C.? What is it that you wanted from him? What could he have done to ensure that writers like you would not write that you 'weren't surprised' when he was murdered? What will it take for you to replace your stock narrative of 'a young black man killed and I'm not surprised' to a 'a young black man who was doing everything right was killed protecting his family'? When can we expect a public apology from you if events continue to play out as they currently are?

Thanks for taking the time to write that. I really hope he reads it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Wilbon is a fat tube that thinks he always knows everything but rarely does. I wish he would go bask the Chi town and leave us alone.
__________________
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Benjamin Franklin
Riggo44 is offline  

Advertisements
Old 11-30-2007, 03:08 PM   #92
rypper11
The Starter
 
rypper11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1,228
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

According to the Miami Hearld it appears that he was targeted but not because of the reasons that Cowtud and Wilbonehead seem to think. He was targeted because he had money and nobody expected him to be home seven hours after a game. Maybe the headlines will stop refering to his race (as if that ever made a difference) and focused on his age and who he was. Call me an ignorant white guy, but why is black on black crime worse than any other murder?
__________________
Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.
rypper11 is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:18 PM   #93
redsk1
The Starter
 
redsk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,351
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

I have always liked Wilbon. I didn't really agree too much w/ his article. On the surface though it would seem reasonable to suspect that it was not random, and was premeditated. Unfortunately, some facts got twisted around to make it seem like he was a target or some sort of payback.

I listed to everyones opinion and although most were cordial they rang w/ an underlying tone of his past catching up w/ him. Everyone jumped to this conclusion. If the most recent news is correct, I just hope everyone who jumped to this conclusion is aware of their error.
redsk1 is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:26 PM   #94
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 45
Posts: 8,317
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by rypper11 View Post
According to the Miami Hearld it appears that he was targeted but not because of the reasons that Cowtud and Wilbonehead seem to think. He was targeted because he had money and nobody expected him to be home seven hours after a game. Maybe the headlines will stop refering to his race (as if that ever made a difference) and focused on his age and who he was. Call me an ignorant white guy, but why is black on black crime worse than any other murder?
Cowturd offered a reasonable account for his speculation the other day. He basically said that people can reasonably speculate as to why Sean was murdered and that it was reasonable to theorize that Sean was murdered by someone he knew from his past. He admitted that he could be wrong, but bragged about his track record of being right. Hopefully these three detainees are the killers, the detainees do not know Sean, and Cowturd will eat crow.

I can't wait for members of the media who were so convinced Sean's past killed him to eat crow. You'd think that prominent members of the press would not rush to judgment. Speculation is fine provided it is reasonable and is labeled speculation.....it's another matter when the speculation is unreasonable and/or presented as virtual fact.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:34 PM   #95
redsk1
The Starter
 
redsk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,351
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha View Post
Cowturd offered a reasonable account for his speculation the other day. He basically said that people can reasonably speculate as to why Sean was murdered and that it was reasonable to theorize that Sean was murdered by someone he knew from his past. He admitted that he could be wrong, but bragged about his track record of being right. Hopefully these three detainees are the killers, the detainees do not know Sean, and Cowturd will eat crow.

I can't wait for members of the media who were so convinced Sean's past killed him to eat crow. You'd think that prominent members of the press would not rush to judgment. Speculation is fine provided it is reasonable and is labeled speculation.....it's another matter when the speculation is unreasonable and/or presented as virtual fact.
Agreed, i was trying to find the words to say what you just did.
redsk1 is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:50 PM   #96
EternalEnigma21
Assistant Regional Mod
 
EternalEnigma21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Carbondale CO
Age: 44
Posts: 2,958
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

thats all fine and good, but his close friends and certainly his family have already been unjustly subjected to that bs at a devastating time. Can you imagine listening to the news of your son's death and hearing so many people in the media passing judgement on him based on pure speculation? Especially if he died defending his goddamn family...

tragic
__________________
I am the brute squad.
EternalEnigma21 is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:51 PM   #97
Coff
Impact Rookie
 
Coff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Halfmoon, NY
Posts: 686
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy View Post
You guys are better people than I am. I mean that. I'm a firm believer in eye for an eye.
My thoughts exactly
Coff is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 04:21 PM   #98
TampaDude
Camp Scrub
 
TampaDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Riverview, FL
Posts: 68
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

Good...I hope they got the bastards.

If these are the guys, then they can ALL be charged with first-degree murder, even if only one of them actually pulled the trigger. They will all get life w/o parole, and the shooter is gonna get the needle. Book it.
TampaDude is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 04:28 PM   #99
jgalecpa
Special Teams
 
jgalecpa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 458
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

Send them to the Prison in Starke!

Ted Bundy went there and never left.

J-Dawg
__________________
Theismann: You're wrong, the rule is wrong, the refs are wrong, and I'm right
jgalecpa is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 04:31 PM   #100
Skinsfan1967
Special Teams
 
Skinsfan1967's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Frederick, Maryland
Age: 57
Posts: 254
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

I think the mother f ' er should get the death penaty. It should be done on the fifty yard line at either Fed Ex or the Orange Bowl In front of a sold out crowd. Then bury the bastard face down so he can see were he is going---straight to hell.
__________________
Yellow41 on Redskinsheads
Skinsfan1967 is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 07:30 PM   #101
SC Skins Fan
The Starter
 
SC Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,555
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

New tidbit reported by the Miami-Herald and on JLC's blog. At least one of the men being questioned was at the house for a birthday party. So wonder if they are talking to these guys about who they talked to about the house or if they are genuine suspects. Guess we'll learn more as time goes on.

3 detained, 2 sought in Taylor homicide - 11/30/2007 - MiamiHerald.com
__________________
It has taken a long time, but I have finally realized that nothing I say about the Redskins will have any effect upon anything the Redskins do.
SC Skins Fan is offline  
Old 11-30-2007, 07:34 PM   #102
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: ST Murder Investigation Thread

For the purposes of keeping things from being too confusing. I'm going to lock this thread and move the discussion over here, where earlier today we started discussing the latest developments.

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...-look-1-a.html

Good thread we had here, just want to make sure information doesn't get lost in the shuffle.
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.22008 seconds with 10 queries