Gibbs will be back next year

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Skinsguy...oddly enough, I did find a little proof. I didn't think I would since it was so long ago.
here is the site I got this info from:
About Joe Gibbs, Joe Gibbs Online, Sign Up for Joe's Weekly Spiritual Game Plan!, Joe Gibbs

"Gibbs retired from football in 1993, after citing health problems. He was known for his long hours, and he said he wanted to spend more time with his family."
"as he led the Washington Redskins to three Super Bowl victories in four appearances, then quit to own a NASCAR racing team."

Mmmkaaay, I didn't see anything in there about Joe Gibbs working 18 hours a day in NASCAR? Where is your proof? It just says he retired and joined NASCAR. I don't believe anybody here is going to dispute that.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

Sorry, but I don't see how Coach Gibbs relating one story about his son equates to being his main reason for leaving. His medical issues played a huge part as well. He was having alot of problems due to lack of sleep and having persistent headaches and pain in his arms. After his diagnosis, he knew he couldn't continue as he had been. As far as his family goes, he began questioning the amount of time he was spending with them three years prior to his retirement when his own father passed away, at which point his father apologized to him on his deathbed for not being there for them as he should have been. Also, at that point in his career, he had been coaching for 25 years. He gave it all he had and had nothing left to prove. I just don't think you can find fault in him, whatever his reasons were, considering what he gave up for this team and its fans. The fact that he's chosen to do it all over again speaks volumns as to his character and his devotion to this organization.

Well said. Honestly, if I were in his shoes, I'd probably just be happy with my past coaching accomplishments and call it a career. I wouldn't have come back to coaching at his age. Like you said LB, I think it speaks volumes about his character and how he loves this team enough to get this franchise back to where it belongs, which is at the top of the NFL.

[Redskinhog1963]

actually gibbs is ahead of all the other coaches like parcells,and dick vermeil,
vermeil especially.he'd been out the league,was a winning coach,and it took him almost 5 years and a new qb to win the superbowl!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskinhog1963

actually gibbs is ahead of all the other coaches like parcells,and dick vermeil,
vermeil especially.he'd been out the league,was a winning coach,and it took him almost 5 years and a new qb to win the superbowl!

Actually he won the Super Bowl in year 3 with the Rams.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well said. Honestly, if I were in his shoes, I'd probably just be happy with my past coaching accomplishments and call it a career. I wouldn't have come back to coaching at his age. Like you said LB, I think it speaks volumes about his character and how he loves this team enough to get this franchise back to where it belongs, which is at the top of the NFL.

Honestly I think part of it was money. He's getting 5-6 million a year? That's alot of coin. But I'm glad he is coming back. But I hope Snyder strips him of his role of team President. He needs to do a better job coaching the team.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Honestly I think part of it was money. He's getting 5-6 million a year? That's alot of coin. But I'm glad he is coming back. But I hope Snyder strips him of his role of team President. He needs to do a better job coaching the team.

I don't know, I mean I'm sure the money doesn't hurt but he had been offered coaching jobs prior to coming back to Washington.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Mmmkaaay, I didn't see anything in there about Joe Gibbs working 18 hours a day in NASCAR? Where is your proof? It just says he retired and joined NASCAR. I don't believe anybody here is going to dispute that.

mmm what? My point was that he left the Redskins "to be with family" and went straight to NASCAR. The 18 hours a day was a non factor. I don't care if he worked 24 hours a day in NASCAR, the point was he left the skins to be with family and went to NASCAR. I proved that point.

Also, this is your quote:
Secondly, who's to say his intentions were not to spend more time with his family?

I am..and I proved it with my link. He went STRAIGHT to NASCAR, did not pass go, did not collect $200.
I understand you're going to get defensive about Gibbs, most do, but he's not perfect.

About disputing him going to NASCAR, well no one will say he wasn't there, but you argued he left due to health reasons, not to be with family like I said. Sure health played a factor, but his main reason was family. (again, I proved that) In fact here is your quote:
Completely different reason the first time. At the point, he was feeling the effects of his diabetes big time

I hope now you are enlightened as to why he left in the first place, and it wasn't nearly as honorable as he would have lead us to believe.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

As TAFKAS pointed out, he worked closely with his sons on the race team, so he did spend more time with the family. Plus I'm sure NASCAR wasn't quite the grind that the NFL was for him.

Just to add to that, I speak with guys from NASCAR almost every day and members of Joe Gibbs Racing very often (let's say weekly) and we were talking about Gibbs on Wednesday of this past week. And they were telling me that Gibbs was very much a hands-off CEO as a NASCAR owner. He had a vision of how he wanted the operation run, the means to get good sponsors, and he hired the best people and let them handle the nitty-gritty. His day to day commitment to NASCAR as a team owner has never been as strong as it has been to the NFL as a head coach. Moving to NASCAR definitely allowed him to be closer to his family, it allowed him to spend a lot more time with his wife and JD in North Carolina and travel to visit Coy in Stanford.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Just to add to that, I speak with guys from NASCAR almost every day and members of Joe Gibbs Racing very often (let's say weekly)

That must be nice...have you met any of the drivers?
For some reason I am a Jeff Gordon fan, so I do not like Tony Stewart at all, but I definitely recognize Joe Gibbs racing as a great team.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

That must be nice...have you met any of the drivers?
For some reason I am a Jeff Gordon fan, so I do not like Tony Stewart at all, but I definitely recognize Joe Gibbs racing as a great team.

Yeah I've met several of them. Tony Stewart is really cool, always having fun. Gordon is kind of arrogant. Jeff Burton is probably the nicest of them all.

[gibbs4life]

Originally Posted by jsarno

That must be nice...have you met any of the drivers?
For some reason I am a Jeff Gordon fan, so I do not like Tony Stewart at all, but I definitely recognize Joe Gibbs racing as a great team.

so there you proved my point ..
i hate that you don,t like smoke but hell most don,t anyways...
again nascar/football ,you do it with the people..
i would much rather see gibbs the coach take over but i want team president gibbs to hire a GM too.
this is a what have you done for me lately league now and right now it don,t look too good but i remain patient.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by gibbs4life

so there you proved my point ..
i hate that you don,t like smoke but hell most don,t anyways...
again nascar/football ,you do it with the people..

WHAT???

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Yeah I've met several of them. Tony Stewart is really cool, always having fun. Gordon is kind of arrogant. Jeff Burton is probably the nicest of them all.

I always heard Burton was a good guy.

I think it'd be fun to be part of a racing team.