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Old 12-18-2023, 10:36 AM   #1
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how about a draft similar to this:

4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu - OT Penn State
38. Bo Nix - QB Oregon
41. Graham Barton - OG Duke
68. Sedrick Van Pran - OC Georgia
96. Tommy Eichenberg - LB Ohio State
100. Darius Robinson - EDGE Missouri
125. Brevyn Spann-Ford - TE Minnesota
132. Junior Colson - LB Michigan
142. Jaylin Noel - WR Iowa State
191. Jo'Quavious Marks - RB Mississippi State

Still got the best OT, best Center and second best guard (imo) in the draft . . . plus added Bo Nix to compete with Howell.

Id hate that
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Old 12-18-2023, 11:48 AM   #2
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Id hate that
lol . . . you'd hate the 3 of the 4 best offensive lineman and the 5th QB in the draft?
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Old 12-18-2023, 09:26 AM   #3
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Re: The Sam Howell Thread

At the end of the day, if they can upgrade the position, I’m happy


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Re: The Sam Howell Thread

The amount of people on Reddit saying to get rid of Sam (not even realizing he’s still on a rookie deal) is crazy. To me he’s shaping up to be another Heinicke, he’ll win you games but he’ll never get you to the promised land. Granted that could change with the next coaching regime because I don’t think we’ve hit Sam’s ceiling yet and he can be developed more but letting the dude go is wild to me.


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The amount of people on Reddit saying to get rid of Sam (not even realizing he’s still on a rookie deal) is crazy. To me he’s shaping up to be another Heinicke, he’ll win you games but he’ll never get you to the promised land. Granted that could change with the next coaching regime because I don’t think we’ve hit Sam’s ceiling yet and he can be developed more but letting the dude go is wild to me.


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If the new GM decides to draft a QB I think we could get a day 2 pick for Sam. There are plenty of QB hungry teams out there and Sam has displayed enough that some one would gamble on him. I would prefer that over keeping Sam and having a QB competition. If they have doubt who the actual starter is then we don't have an actual starter. But who knows at this point.
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Old 12-18-2023, 12:07 PM   #6
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If the new GM decides to draft a QB I think we could get a day 2 pick for Sam. There are plenty of QB hungry teams out there and Sam has displayed enough that some one would gamble on him. I would prefer that over keeping Sam and having a QB competition. If they have doubt who the actual starter is then we don't have an actual starter. But who knows at this point.
Or you can keep him as a reliable/cheap backup, since Brissett won't be around (I think he had a 1-year deal).

I think if any player gets moved, it will likely be Jon Allen.
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Or you can keep him as a reliable/cheap backup, since Brissett won't be around (I think he had a 1-year deal).

I think if any player gets moved, it will likely be Jon Allen.

That’s what I was thinking. If we draft a QB Sam automatically moves to QB2. Deal him later on.

I think it’ll be a lot of movement of players during the off season. Seriously can’t wait to see some of these names fly off the roster.


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Or you can keep him as a reliable/cheap backup, since Brissett won't be around (I think he had a 1-year deal).

I think if any player gets moved, it will likely be Jon Allen.
I would prefer to bring in a veteran to help guide a new QB than for Sam to be that guide
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I would prefer to bring in a veteran to help guide a new QB than for Sam to be that guide
If you want a vet, why not keep the vet they have with Brissett?
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What bothered me yesterday was that when Brisset came in there the ball was coming out fast. He wasn't dicking around back there. End of his drop he was cutting it loose. I liked what I saw there.

Why wasn't Sam doing that?
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What bothered me yesterday was that when Brisset came in there the ball was coming out fast. He wasn't dicking around back there. End of his drop he was cutting it loose. I liked what I saw there.

Why wasn't Sam doing that?

Part of it is I don’t think he’s fully developed so he’s not processing fast enough. The other part is I think he’s so shell shocked from the pocket collapsing and getting nailed that he panics and can’t get through his progressions correctly.


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JB is an 8 year vet with 48 starts under his belt, naturally he's going to look the part vs Sam who's on start #15.

Plus it's worth noting that Sam may never be great at dropping back and operating from the pocket efficiently on a consistent basis. He's good off schedule, but still has a ways to go from the pocket.
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JB is an 8 year vet with 48 starts under his belt, naturally he's going to look the part vs Sam who's on start #15.

Plus it's worth noting that Sam may never be great at dropping back and operating from the pocket efficiently on a consistent basis. He's good off schedule, but still has a ways to go from the pocket.
This is exactly how I feel about Caleb Williams. Everyone just looks at his wow plays which are spectacular. But that is not going to cut in in the NFL. He reminds me a lot of Zach Wilson and to a lesser extent Sam- except Sam is way more mentally tough and better cut out for the NFL.
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Sam really not coming out smelling like roses today huh? Well there goes the whole we got a good quarterback playing on the cheap for a few years plan.
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Sam really not coming out smelling like roses today huh? Well there goes the whole we got a good quarterback playing on the cheap for a few years plan.
He's been really bad for 4 straight weeks now.

Yesterday Terry goes off when JB comes in. Maybe Sam is just a QB2, he was a 5th rd pick for a reason. I was all in on him after 6 weeks but hes been bad here lately
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