Roy Williams = dirty tackler

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I love this stuff, this is great. You say the only thing that matters is the here and the now, and not the past. Well that is because that is all Redskins fans have is the here and now, there is no past victories to talk about, no past sweeps of your most heated rival, so of course the here and now is what is important to you, because that is all you have.

Here's a question for you....how many of you were actually alive and out of diapers the last time the Redskins even made it to the Super Bowl?

You guys are too funny!

If you must know, I was at the championship game in '83 when Dexter Manley (remember him??) man-handled your offensive lineman and knocked Danny White's punk ass out of the game!! (seems like we have a habbit of doing that to Cowboy QBs)

Oh, I forgot the TD by Darrell Grant that sent RFK into a tizzy!!!
For the record, I was here for all four of Gibbs' Super Bowl appearances!!

How 'bout them diapers!!

[Hog1]

I thought I would just toss this out because........................it makes me happy! I might be wrong, but if memory serves Sandtrap, Dallas just added another wrinkle to their history. In the Many games these two storied francises have played, I believe Dallas has the overall lead in games won? However, this most recent game has delivered to BIG D the worst BEATDOWN in the history of those games!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I thought I would just toss this out because........................it makes me happy! I might be wrong, but if memory serves Sandtrap, Dallas just added another wrinkle to their history. In the Many games these two storied francises have played, I believe Dallas has the overall lead in games won? However, this most recent game has delivered to BIG D the worst BEATDOWN in the history of those games!

I think it's the worst beatdown on the Redskins' side of the rivalry. But I still don't think it's the worst ever, just in a few decades.

[giacomo2]

this is just another rule that the redskins never get. if we would've done that....they probably would suspend the player. what i like is the bs reasons why they do not call the penalty, example:on monday night against the cowbitches, brunnell was horse collared, and john gay madden said the rule didn't apply to qb's. in the preseason, when a redskin got horse-collared, the anouncer said the rule only applied to the quarterback. how about the clothes-line on ramsey the first game? where was the penalty? or fine? let's face it, the redskins team is called differently, and i think it really sucks.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think it's the worst beatdown on the Redskins' side of the rivalry. But I still don't think it's the worst ever, just in a few decades.

THAT just goes to show you how good my memory is!

[dmek25]

sand how old are you and how many of the 5 super bowl victories by the cowboys were you alive for?ive been a fan since 1969 and vince lombardi coaching our beloved skins.i probably know more about your teams history than you.for a fan of a team that has dominated us for about the last decade,your sound like someone who is crying about recent history.dont worry,theres always next year NOT go skins

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

sand how old are you and how many of the 5 super bowl victories by the cowboys were you alive for?ive been a fan since 1969 and vince lombardi coaching our beloved skins.i probably know more about your teams history than you.for a fan of a team that has dominated us for about the last decade,your sound like someone who is crying about recent history.dont worry,theres always next year NOT go skins

Old enough to have seen every single Super Bowl the Cowboys have played in. Old enough to remember Don Merideth as a Dallas QB. Old enough that in the late '70s I was honored to have dinner with Tony Dorsett. Old enough to watch Dat Nguyen grow up in Rockport, Texas watch him play high school, college and pro football. Old enough to remember screaming at the TV for the Dallas defense to find a way, find any way to stop John Riggins. God that guy ran ALL OVER the Cowboys,

BTW I am not crying about recent history, it was 5Rings and I that were the two Dallas fans to actually come back to your forum after that spanking last Sunday. I was also one of the first Dallas fans to come back in here and congratulate you on a dominant and well earned win.

It just tweaked my nose when after a season sweep, and a dominating win on your home field that it did not seem to be enough for some in this forum that they had to dig in for more and accuse Roy Williams of being a "dirty tackler" in the same game where a Redskin LB laid a late hit after the whistle on Witten and injured him. If you want to accuse me of crying about something, well that is the reason.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Dewd they made a NEW RULE because of his dirty shots and horse collar tackels.

That's like Al Capone bragging about new TAX Laws...that put him away for life.
lol

[ST21]

he is..........a dirty player....

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Old enough to have seen every single Super Bowl the Cowboys have played in. Old enough to remember Don Merideth as a Dallas QB. Old enough that in the late '70s I was honored to have dinner with Tony Dorsett. Old enough to watch Dat Nguyen grow up in Rockport, Texas watch him play high school, college and pro football. Old enough to remember screaming at the TV for the Dallas defense to find a way, find any way to stop John Riggins. God that guy ran ALL OVER the Cowboys,

BTW I am not crying about recent history, it was 5Rings and I that were the two Dallas fans to actually come back to your forum after that spanking last Sunday. I was also one of the first Dallas fans to come back in here and congratulate you on a dominant and well earned win.

It just tweaked my nose when after a season sweep, and a dominating win on your home field that it did not seem to be enough for some in this forum that they had to dig in for more and accuse Roy Williams of being a "dirty tackler" in the same game where a Redskin LB laid a late hit after the whistle on Witten and injured him. If you want to accuse me of crying about something, well that is the reason.

Friend if you still think Marcus Washington laid a late hit on Witten then obviously we disagree on what a late hit actually is.

The guy was still in bounds, I repeat in bounds, and moving forward. The ball wasn't dead, and to the best of my recollection (sp) the whistle hadn't blown yet.

So please tell me again, how in the world does this qualify as a late hit??

[MTK]

Like the words Roy Williams and dirty have never been spoken together outside of this forum. Give me a break guy.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by wewhite3

he is..........a dirty player....

WeWhite, what's up with the quote and the Falcons helmet?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Friend if you still think Marcus Washington laid a late hit on Witten then obviously we disagree on what a late hit actually is.

The guy was still in bounds, I repeat in bounds, and moving forward. The ball wasn't dead, and to the best of my recollection (sp) the whistle hadn't blown yet.

So please tell me again, how in the world does this qualify as a late hit??

Well we agree to disagree then, I have gone back to my DVR a few times and watched that hit and the whistle had clearly blown. I agree that forward progress had not been stopped, and I agree that Witten was still in bounds. I believe that the whistle was pre-mature. And when the ref made the call over his stadium microphone he said that the penalty was for a hit AFTER THE WHISTLE, he did NOT say it was for a hit out of bounds. If the whistle had not blown, it would have been a good clean hit. But the fact is, the whistle had blown and the hit was clearly after the fact.

But even though the whistle was pre-mature, it was still blown and the play is dead, regardless if it was "ref error" or not. Even if Witten was in bounds and progress had not been stopped, once the whistle blows the ball cannot be advanced and the official would have marked him down at the spot where the whistle was blown.

I cannot say that Washington did this on purpose. That would be purely out of context for the situation. It was the Cowboys second possesion of the game, it was the 1st quarter, the addreniline for all players had to be on overdrive, two biggest rivals in the game with play-off implications for each team. Anybody, Cowboy or Redskin could have done the same thing it that scenario.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Well we agree to disagree then, I have gone back to my DVR a few times and watched that hit and the whistle had clearly blown. I agree that forward progress had not been stopped, and I agree that Witten was still in bounds. I believe that the whistle was pre-mature. And when the ref made the call over his stadium microphone he said that the penalty was for a hit AFTER THE WHISTLE, he did NOT say it was for a hit out of bounds. If the whistle had not blown, it would have been a good clean hit. But the fact is, the whistle had blown and the hit was clearly after the fact.

But even though the whistle was pre-mature, it was still blown and the play is dead, regardless if it was "ref error" or not. Even if Witten was in bounds and progress had not been stopped, once the whistle blows the ball cannot be advanced and the official would have marked him down at the spot where the whistle was blown.


I cannot say that Washington did this on purpose. That would be purely out of context for the situation. It was the Cowboys second possesion of the game, it was the 1st quarter, the addreniline for all players had to be on overdrive, two biggest rivals in the game with play-off implications for each team. Anybody, Cowboy or Redskin could have done the same thing it that scenario.

I watched the replay and as Witten spun away from the intial tackle he partially stepped out of bounds as he was trying to go forward, no way for a player to make that call that he was out of bounds, the ref made a bad call there, especially against a player like Witten who breaks a lot of tackles, no way was that a dirty hit, Witten was defiently going forward, and his forward progress was never stopped.

As for the whistle I didn't hear one before the hit, if there was one the ref was at fault, because there is no way he should have blown the whistle that early, you can't blame Washington there.

[denim_monger]

beer belly roy williams is even more overrated than old man joe gibbs, and thats pretty bad
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