Brunell Starting

[hurrykaine]

All I can say is good riddance! Trade Ramsey's ass if that's what we wants - let him take his cannon arm and unrealized potential to some other team (to an offense where he could be more successful) - no hard feelings. If we can get a second round pick for him in next year's draft, that's a good deal for us. There might even be teams that'll give us a 1st rounder (the Dolphins were willing last year).

I just could not see us winning against Dallas with Ramsey at the helm. Even though Ramsey was QB in the only win against Dallas in the last 15 games, it was a meaningless game 16, and even in that game, he managed to throw an INT that Roy Williams returned 70 odd yards for a TD.

If Brunell stinks it up,and we're 1-5, then start Jason Campbell and let him learn on the job, since the job will be his next year.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

All I can say is good riddance! Trade Ramsey's ass if that's what we wants - let him take his cannon arm and unrealized potential to some other team (to an offense where he could be more successful) - no hard feelings. If we can get a second round pick for him in next year's draft, that's a good deal for us. There might even be teams that'll give us a 1st rounder (the Dolphins were willing last year).

I just could not see us winning against Dallas with Ramsey at the helm. Even though Ramsey was QB in the only win against Dallas in the last 15 games, it was a meaningless game 16, and even in that game, he managed to throw an INT that Roy Williams returned 70 odd yards for a TD.

If Brunell stinks it up,and we're 1-5, then start Jason Campbell and let him learn on the job, since the job will be his next year.

What you're really saying is that this season is over with before it's hardly begun. Because, mark my words, Mr. Brunell will be no better than last year, and neither will the offense if he's leading it.

But, I don't blame Brunell for bringing on this early season mess and instability. I lay the blame squarely where it belongs - on Gibbs' shoulders.

[celts32]

You have to trust Gibbs on this. He must truely believe that Ramsey can not be a winning NFL QB. Gibbs does not have a mean bone in his body so this is nothing personal. he has to make the decision that he feels is best for the Redskins and he's doing that. I will second guess Gibbs when I feel like I know more football than he does. I am not there yet though...

[saskin]

Originally Posted by celts32

You have to trust Gibbs on this. He must truely believe that Ramsey can not be a winning NFL QB. Gibbs does not have a mean bone in his body so this is nothing personal. he has to make the decision that he feels is best for the Redskins and he's doing that. I will second guess Gibbs when I feel like I know more football than he does. I am not there yet though...

Yes, we must trust Gibbs.

[illdefined]

was keeping Brunell in so long last season for a 6-10 record "good for the team"?

Gibbs is a great coach, but he's human. and that means flawed like any other human. he's noted for his pride, and i think he didn't want *his* team playing without *his* QB. he's entitled to run this team how he wants (especially the Redskins), but then he shouldn't really say everything he does is truly "good for the team"

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Well there goes two seasons down the tubes.

[skinsfan0201]

Don't think that if Brunell stinks up the joint Gibbs won't have a shorter leash on him either. Gibbs plain and simple does not like mistakes and I understand a little better what transpired now, and even though I still don't agree with it there is a lot of football left to be played so don't count anyone out yet!!!!! Our new backup may not be finished with our team yet.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Don't think that if Brunell stinks up the joint Gibbs won't have a shorter leash on him either. Gibbs plain and simple does not like mistakes and I understand a little better what transpired now, and even though I still don't agree with it there is a lot of football left to be played so don't count anyone out yet!!!!! Our new backup may not be finished with our team yet.

Gibbs absorbed 10 games worth of mistakes, as long as they were from Mark.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by illdefined

Gibbs absorbed 10 games worth of mistakes, as long as they were from Mark.

Right on. Somehow the same "standards" that one poster said Ramsey failed to meet don't apply to Brunell. Somehow, the same short leash that Ramsey has been on since Gibbs came back don't apply to Brunell either.

For the life of me, I don't understand what Gibbs sees in Brunell (what has MB actually done to make us a success?) that justifies his continued confidence in him. Then again, who in their right mind could justify a $42M contract for Brunell?

Why does Brunell get to mess up through 9 games and Ramsey gets only 1 quarter?

None of this makes any sense.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by LadyT

None of this makes any sense.

Possibly because you are not privvy to the information and knowledge that Coach Gibbs and staff have.

[Luxorreb]

I trust Joe Gibbs.
People are freaking out about this.
It comes down to winning this coming week. Gibbs believes Brunell is our best shot at beating the Cowboys on MNF. We could have a different QB another week. People need to relax around here or find another team. I like this team we have better than the last 10 or so. They seem to be 'a team'. I'm glad we're not signing castoffs like Deion, Bruce Smith, etc. Also remember we won a SB that during the season we had several different starting QB's. If ya wanna trash Gibbs then go ahead and if ya wanna throw in the towel between wk1-wk2 I ain't gonna stop ya. But I've been here for the long haul and I'll continue to support Joe Gibbs and his organization. GO REDSKINS and the real fans!!!

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

I trust Joe Gibbs.
People are freaking out about this.
It comes down to winning this coming week. Gibbs believes Brunell is our best shot at beating the Cowboys on MNF. We could have a different QB another week. People need to relax around here or find another team. I like this team we have better than the last 10 or so. They seem to be 'a team'. I'm glad we're not signing castoffs like Deion, Bruce Smith, etc. Also remember we won a SB that during the season we had several different starting QB's. If ya wanna trash Gibbs then go ahead and if ya wanna throw in the towel between wk1-wk2 I ain't gonna stop ya. But I've been here for the long haul and I'll continue to support Joe Gibbs and his organization. GO REDSKINS and the real fans!!!

what makes Brunell not a 'castoff' like Sanders, George or Smith? a couple preseason games?

[Luxorreb]

Brunell is not a castoff. He's an insurance policy that's being cashed in. WK 2 Dallas. If we are to have a chance at the Superbowl Brunell woulda had to have been involved at some point.

Joe Knows... please pick me up in the AM my man. I'm forever on the Redskins wagon!!! GO SKINS!!! In Gibbs We Trust!

[That Guy]

gibbs has a crippling fear of mistakes, and he hate when ramsey makes them, but he turns a blind eye when brunell cant throw at all and also makes mistakes (fumbles returned for TDs etc). Ramsey "isn't playing smart football" while brunell is "super super smart" and "really fighting his guts out."

we'll see how it goes...

[DirtBagZ]

Originally Posted by That Guy

gibbs has a crippling fear of mistakes, and he hate when ramsey makes them, but he turns a blind eye when brunell cant throw at all and also makes mistakes (fumbles returned for TDs etc). Ramsey "isn't playing smart football" while brunell is "super super smart" and "really fighting his guts out."

we'll see how it goes...

100% agreed, it is pretty sickening the two different standards of perfromance. I really don't see all of this 'zip' on the ball that Brunell throws. I wish the Skins the best and want them to win, but the realist in me is highly doubtful this will happen in Dallas with Brunell at the helm.

It will be interesting as the season progresses and if Gibbs ends up rotating QBs ala Steve Spurrier what the reaction will be in this town. Spurrier ends up getting maligned for doing this, but with St. Joe, thou shall not speak any evil.

As for the Brunell Bandwagon, I'll be real suprised if it even gets out of the driveway this upcoming Monday night game.