The Sam Howell Thread

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Howell QB1?

If that story is true , just LOL

What fucking quality OC is going to be excited to come here and be told he has a one game wonder QB to work with.

Until this franchise is sold everything is moot; we are officially in the lame duck mode.

If i was a OC of any worth i wouldn't come here; this franchise could be sold tomorrow and RR and his staff asked to pack their shit and move on.

Nothing of substance can happen here until its sold. It be like if you and your wife were house shopping but also filed for divorce.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mredskins

If that story is true , just LOL

What fucking quality OC is going to be excited to come here and be told he has a one game wonder QB to work with.

Until this franchise is sold everything is moot; we are officially in the lame duck mode.

If i was a OC of any worth i wouldn't come here; this franchise could be sold tomorrow and RR and his staff asked to pack their shit and move on.

Nothing of substance can happen here until its sold. It be like if you and your wife were house shopping but also filed for divorce.

I think it just depends on that OC's evaluation of Howell. If he thinks he can work with him and this offense, then I believe it would be a good opportunity. If the franchise is sold the day after he comes aboard, who cares. He signed a contract, will be paid accordingly, and he can move on.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think it just depends on that OC's evaluation of Howell. If he thinks he can work with him and this offense, then I believe it would be a good opportunity. If the franchise is sold the day after he comes aboard, who cares. He signed a contract, will be paid accordingly, and he can move on.

Great but they still want build a career; that would solve a short term problem (feeding your family) but if i was building a coaching career i want go somewhere where i could highlight my skill set and then eventually be promoted.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Well, that's exactly what could happen here. If someone accepts the OC position and has success with Howell (or whoever), is able to turn this into a top 15 offense in the league, he will get another opportunity elsewhere, if not here, with the potential to be promoted just like any successful OC.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Well, that's exactly what could happen here. If someone accepts the OC position and has success with Howell (or whoever), is able to turn this into a top 15 offense in the league, he will get another opportunity elsewhere, if not here, with the potential to be promoted just like any successful OC.

Exactly. Said this is another thread, but the quasi certainty of the HC being out next season might make the OC position even more attractive to someone confident he can have immediate success. Uncertainty ? Yes, for sure. But that can be said of a lot coordinator positions. And one other way to look at it could be "potential short cut to the HC job".

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[jamf]

Howell QB1? FU Rivera.
Heinicke had to tell you to start him in a garbage time game now he is your QB1? Dumb ass mother fucker.

New owner is cleaning house. New OC has no shot of staying on.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by jamf

Howell QB1? FU Rivera.

Heinicke had to tell you to start him in a garbage time game now he is your QB1? Dumb ass mother fucker.



New owner is cleaning house. New OC has no shot of staying on.

Is that a certainty ? What if that OC just had a second year QB lead one of the most explosive offense in the league ? Wouldn't the owner want to be the good guy that gives an up and coming coach a shot at HC ? Also saving him the headache of an HC search that he has zero experience conducting. As new owner he'll have a lot on his plate. And maybe he'll want to focus on the branding aspect of things, who knows.

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[mredskins]

Ok now we are daydreaming that the new OC will eventually be the HC and SH is going be Super Bowl MVP

Good grief

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Ok now we are daydreaming that the new OC will eventually be the HC and SH is going be Super Bowl MVP



Good grief

Nobody is talking about SB MVP, just saying the possibility of the offense being successful enough for the OC to be considered as a HC candidates exists, this notion that it'll be an automatic house cleaning no matter the situation is a stretch IMO.

I'm not even talking about probability, but the possibility existing may make this position more attractive than we think. Both "automatic house cleaning" and "nobody will want this OC job" are overstatements.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by jamf

Howell QB1? FU Rivera.
Heinicke had to tell you to start him in a garbage time game now he is your QB1? Dumb ass mother fucker.

New owner is cleaning house. New OC has no shot of staying on.

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

Great point !!

[jamf]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

Yes!
I want to have the best options available at QB and hopefully someone steps up in camp.

Step one is winning the job. Let the young QB actually earn the start then you see what they can do during the season.

Howell hasn’t earned the starting job. He backed into it via a wasted season and the two guys ahead of him shitting the bed. Every qb in the league should have a similar skill set to Howell. You aren’t seeing anything extraordinary from him. Unfortunately we had to watch noodle arm throw for half the season so Howell loooks like John Elway.

How about draft a guy or two and let the 3 of them battle it out?
I don’t give a fuck about their egos or feelings. The one the plays the best in camp starts.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Is that a certainty ? What if that OC just had a second year QB lead one of the most explosive offense in the league ? Wouldn't the owner want to be the good guy that gives an up and coming coach a shot at HC ? Also saving him the headache of an HC search that he has zero experience conducting. As new owner he'll have a lot on his plate. And maybe he'll want to focus on the branding aspect of things, who knows.

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I would hope the new owner would bring in a GM or president to run the team.
I don’t need Jeff Bezos or Jayz talking Xs and Os.


Explosive Offense? We can wish but that would have to start with elite Oline play.
Likelihood of converting these bums to an elite group is slim.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by jamf

I would hope the new owner would bring in a GM or president to run the team.

I don’t need Jeff Bezos or Jayz talking Xs and Os.





Explosive Offense? We can wish but that would have to start with elite Oline play.

Likelihood of converting these bums to an elite group is slim.

Agreed on the Oline part. As for the explosive offense I'm not saying it's the most likely scenario, but it's a possibility that a confident OC could envision, we still are packed with skill positions players.

Good point about the GM/Team President.
But this would go to my point: if the new owner has smart people doing the coaches hires, then they wouldn't let a promising OC get away from them.

Again I'm not talking likelihood, I'm saying an OC confident in himself could look at this roster AND situation and think "yeah, I'm good enough to get this to work in my favor".

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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

I have always believed that you draft QB's every year or just about every year. It's the most important position on your team and it is a main reason why this organization never goes anywhere.

Even if you have an established stater you still should draft a QB in the mid or later rounds.