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[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

Cut KW2 a break, he's a soldier remember?

Also in the running for the "not the smartest idea" prize is Davone Bess, for allegedly assaulting a cop.

I posted about Bess in another thread before I saw this. Sorry, didn't mean to steal your thunder.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Not as bad as this Eagles fan:

"Swiss Cheese Pervert" Arrested: Police | NBC 10 Philadelphia

His johnson can fit in a swiss cheese hole? Poor guy, that's puny.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Why? Wilson is nothing special. He's not asked to carry the load and has no pressure on him with Lynch and that defense. He rarely throws for 250 yards and doesn't even top 200 most games. He'll go a few games passing with 60-70% accuracy and then have a string where he completes 40-50%. Kaepernick is the same way. Put him on a team where he's forced to be the one to win games, like Griffin's spot or most other teams in the league and I doubt he'd succeed. Seattle and San Fran are mirror images make-up wise and they're unique situations in a league that has become a pass-first league that requires a franchise QB. These two teams are still wining in the old mold of defense and a strong run game. Both teams win despite who their QBs are, not because of them. Wilson and Kaep have their moments and highlights but neither are the reason their teams are in the NFC Championship.

Griffin has more raw talent than both. He's faster with a stronger arm and until this season, was more accurate. I believe this season will be an anomaly in his career when we look back. Cam Newton was written off by everyone, including myself after his sophomore slump and we're hearing the same things about Griffin. We've seen what he can do. Also, no one can be expected to come back immediately after his surgery without any offseason work and pick up where he left off. Mike Shanahan made a lot of mistakes but his benching of Griffin at the end of this season so he'll have a full offseason might end up being a blessing. I was in the "he needs reps" camp, but missing two straight offseasons could be a career and franchise killer.

He'll be the better QB in the long run. Luck may have more success, at least for the next few years, but both of them will prove to be worth what the teams paid for them.

Didn't Griffin have these same kind of games in 2012? When we clinched the division against Dallas I don't think Griffin had 100 yards passing. Nothing wrong with your Qb running a conservative offense when you have a dominant run game and great defense. I'll take our 2012 offense over the one I saw this year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Vontae Davis + David Amerson

I'd honestly rather have Hall and Amerson back, along with possibly a healthy Crawford and play a lot more bump and run.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I posted about Bess in another thread before I saw this. Sorry, didn't mean to steal your thunder.

It's all good bro.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Didn't Griffin have these same kind of games in 2012? When we clinched the division against Dallas I don't think Griffin had 100 yards passing. Nothing wrong with your Qb running a conservative offense when you have a dominant run game and great defense. I'll take our 2012 offense over the one I saw this year.

To be fair, it was exactly 100 yards, but I don't mind giving the credit to AlfMo and the defense since Griffin wasn't anywhere near 100%. Even watching that game you could tell they weren't trying to get him to do too much.

[Kindoy]

Denver / San Fran Superbowl

Would've really enjoyed a Manning & Co. vs. Legion of Boom (w/ Browner) Superbowl.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Didn't Griffin have these same kind of games in 2012? When we clinched the division against Dallas I don't think Griffin had 100 yards passing. Nothing wrong with your Qb running a conservative offense when you have a dominant run game and great defense. I'll take our 2012 offense over the one I saw this year.

Difference is Griffin had a bum knee that game, not saying Wilson is bad but he is vastly overrated. Good QB but the way people talk about him you would think his bust is in Canton already.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd honestly rather have Hall and Amerson back, along with possibly a healthy Crawford and play a lot more bump and run.

Then when do you get that other corner....Hall is getting old.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Then when do you get that other corner....Hall is getting old.

He's only 29. He's got another 3-5 years left in him.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

He's only 29. He's got another 3-5 years left in him.

According to Wikipedia he's actually 30, his birthday is at the end of November. I kept thinking about how strange it would be for him to have been in the league for a decade and only be 29 years old. Sorry D-rave.

Either way last year was as strong as I've ever seen him, I definitely wouldn't mind bringing him back for another couple years until we can find a younger replacement. We've got too many holes to fill already, why create another?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Then when do you get that other corner....Hall is getting old.

I would not go into free agency and pay big money for a corner. I would try and improve the pass rush and find some people that can block.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Difference is Griffin had a bum knee that game, not saying Wilson is bad but he is vastly overrated. Good QB but the way people talk about him you would think his bust is in Canton already.

But even before he got hurt he had games where he didn't have big passing stats. But he was having an impact off of the zone read and opening holes up for Morris and running the ball. I believe RG3 had 3200 yards in 15 starts.

I don't think Wilson, Kap or RG3 will ever be 5,000 passers, but they can still be very good QB's. It's not all about stats.

[skinsfaninok]

Darren sharper suspended from NFLN due to rape charges..

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Darren sharper suspended from NFLN due to rape charges..

That's shocking, I always thought he was more of the upstanding citizen type. I've never heard bad things about him.