Skins cowboys postgame

[budw38]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Sean Taylor passing away was a pretty huge thing too, as long as we're citing things that could have been different.

I was telling some friends prior to the game ,what you pointed out . If # 21 were playing FS , our secondary would be much better . We have been snake - bitten at FS and CB the past 6 years. maybe Im wrong ... but I think a pro bowl type OL Men and PB DB and we would be in the playoff picture next year . Adding a D-Lineman and WR would also help . Special teams and OL cost us tonight .

[Bucket]

We will be 5-5 going in to SF.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Boarder line, with the oline putting us on the bubble. Defensively I think our front 7 personnel are solid top ten with a great defensive mind coaching them and Brandon Merriweather was a probowler not too long ago and if finally healthy. Offensively, I think our QB, RBs, TEs, WRs all have top ten potential with the right coach on the sidelines. Oline could be better too though maybe just above avg today, but top ten within a year. BA and Shanahan have done a solid job building the roster IMO.

I just meant on defense as per your post. I do not think we are a top ten talent on defense....at all.

[GTripp0012]

To be fair, you can add Bill Belichick and Lovie Smith to the list of coaches who can't get a decent season out of Brandon Meriweather.

[GTripp0012]

This is a fairly insufferable thread, and the only people posting in it agree with me.

[The Goat]

Carr totally and completely shutting down Peter Boy is evidence he's not a #1 wr.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Carr totally and completely shutting down Peter Boy is evidence he's not a #1 wr.

Carr didnt totally shut him down. RG3 could have completed plenty to him tonight but was full of bad throws. Plenty of times, Carr undercut him and challenged RG3 to go over the top, but RG3 couldnt do it. Several times Pierre had a couple of yards on him, thats considered open in the NFL. The 4th quarter alone, he could have had 50-75 yards if RG3 could of gotten him the ball. You cant blame him when the QB had such an off night. You are just to busy listening to people call the game who are in love with the Cowboys claiming that since he didnt have a ton of catches, that he was shut down. You are relying on Collinsworth for your opinion. He is on pace for 100 catches and like 1300 yards for the year, which is comparable to a lot of 1's.

His contract isnt really all that bad. The overall annual salaries may be a bit high, but his guaranteed money is not bad (Approximately 30% guaranteed, some go in the 40's or even as high as 50%). Mike Wallace is a bad contract for a WR. We can get out of his contract next year and end up saving 3 mil against the cap after just 2 years of the 5 year contract.

[The Goat]

It could be his 1st season to break 1000. But I doubt it. He typically has several "quiet" games over the season and loses pace with that 1000+ target.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It could be his 1st season to break 1000. But I doubt it. He typically has several "quiet" games over the season and loses pace with that 1000+ target.

So you are judging him by games that havent happened?

In Indy, he was used as an Aldrick Robinson, to threaten the safeties deep except occasionally. Peyton had Reggie Wayne to be his main target, and used TE's and RB's for underneath stuff. Garcons targets with Peyton were pretty low because Peyton likes to get the ball out quick and he rarely ran shorter routes. He got targeted to keep the safeties deep when they cheated up. His quiet games had more to do with how he was targeted.

His best year so far was with Curtis Painter as his QB. He was allowed to run shorter routes due to having a pretty bad QB and got targeted more because of that. His stats were basically the same as Reggie Wayne that year.

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Well, I don´t think ST should be in any equasion by now. You could have argued with it for 1, maybe 2 years. But 6 years... sorry, there is too big a chance for injury or even a trade in the NFL to count on him still playing here.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Carr didnt totally shut him down. RG3 could have completed plenty to him tonight but was full of bad throws. Plenty of times, Carr undercut him and challenged RG3 to go over the top, but RG3 couldnt do it. Several times Pierre had a couple of yards on him, thats considered open in the NFL. The 4th quarter alone, he could have had 50-75 yards if RG3 could of gotten him the ball. You cant blame him when the QB had such an off night. You are just to busy listening to people call the game who are in love with the Cowboys claiming that since he didnt have a ton of catches, that he was shut down. You are relying on Collinsworth for your opinion. He is on pace for 100 catches and like 1300 yards for the year, which is comparable to a lot of 1's.

His contract isnt really all that bad. The overall annual salaries may be a bit high, but his guaranteed money is not bad (Approximately 30% guaranteed, some go in the 40's or even as high as 50%). Mike Wallace is a bad contract for a WR. We can get out of his contract next year and end up saving 3 mil against the cap after just 2 years of the 5 year contract.

For the most part Carr absolutely shut him down. Griff threw several balls rite on the money to pierre but carr had him covered like a glove. I dont care who was calling the game.

[Chico23231]

The bad:

1. O-Line- Everyone on the Oline with the exception of Silverblunt made multiple mistakes. Thought the Oline had there worst game. D Young and Helu also were pretty poor on blocking and blitz pick ups. Chester, Monty and Kory L especially were poor. I cant believe we've made multiple G and T picks and outside of Silver back, all of have busted and cant make the starting line up.

2. Special Teams - is it Burns who Shanny personally hired to run Teams? We know Teams has been worse this season than any other and its falls all on this terrible decision to hire this f*cking piece of shit with no previous coaching experience. Fire this bitch now. He ultimately cost us the game.

3. Griff's ball security that everyone seems to ignore. He fumbles folks, alot

4. Penalties are never gonna get fixed, and thats entirely on Shanny

The good:

1. Defense maybe had their best game of the season. It was ruined by Kyle and the special teams unit

2. Griff threw the ball and ran great. I really though RG3 looked back to normal. I'm starting to believe Kyle cant coach RG3...I just dont think he trust him or handles him well. Its a trust issue imo.

3. Thought Alfmo and Reed looked solid.

4. Im going 5 - 0 in my fantasy leagues this weekend, i really dominated.

[CrustyRedskin]

12 games left and everyone deep down knows there ain't no 7 game run coming this year. But we can get through this together. Sorry Shannys but I'm all out of love.

I'M ALL OUT OF LOVE - AIR SUPPLY - YouTube

[NC_Skins]

Good:

1) Defense played a good game minus the first drive. Held Cowboys in check for most of the night. Big props to D-hall for showing up and playing his ass off.

2) RGIII - showed some progress in the first half in the pocket. Slide well and made clean passes and good decisions.


Bad:

1) Offensive Line: Dear god what a hot mess this crew has turned out to be. If you keep up with HTTR and his film break down, he's reiterated a few times that the RO hid the flaws within this OL. I'm not even going to go on a rant about LeRebust and that wasted pick.

2) RGIII: not sure what he's thinking back there, but some of his passes were off in the 2nd half, and his internal clock must be broken. You can't hold onto the ball for as long as he did a few times and expect anything good to happen. His ball security is horrible.

3) WRs: Beyond Garcon and Reed, most of our guys are garbage. SIX MILLION FOR JOSH "WHERE THE **** ARE YOU" MORGAN??? A automatic cut come the end of this season.

4) Coaches: Jim Haslett was the only one that earned his pay yesterday as Kyle, Mike and Keith Burns did a horrible job yesterday. It seems time and time again, our offense will do well, and then we completely go away from what was working only to stall. Not using personnel effectively also showed on that RB pass to Morris out of the backfield (which he dropped). Where is Helu and why isn't he being used? If the OL isn't blocking, I'd rather have Helu back there.

5) Not so Special Teams- I admit I was very wrong about Danny Smith. This group is terrible.




TLDR version:

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

12 games left and everyone deep down knows there ain't no 7 game run coming this year. But we can get through this together. Sorry Shannys but I'm all out of love.

I'M ALL OUT OF LOVE - AIR SUPPLY - YouTube

CrustyRedskin: "I wish I could carry your smile in my heart...for times when my life feels so low."

Mike Shanahan: "Ooooooookay."