Mad props to Cam Newton

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

That's actually not a bad point, I still think college players who play in pro style offenses in college have a better chance to succeed in the NFL....but playing in a pro style in college is so different from the pros because of the speed that maybe its not that big of an advantage.

I was just thinking about Brady Quinn and Claussen. They just do not have the talent. They can read defenses and they know what they want to do, but their bodies just can't get it done.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I was just thinking about Brady Quinn and Claussen. They just do not have the talent. They can read defenses and they know what they want to do, but their bodies just can't get it done.

I'd say it's the other way around. Lots of guys have the physical talent, but it's their mental makeups that hold them back. You have to be able to process a lot of info very quickly and make the correct decisions.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd say it's the other way around. Lots of guys have the physical talent, but it's their mental makeups that hold them back. You have to be able to process a lot of info very quickly and make the correct decisions.

I agree, I just consider that "mental make up" to be a talent. One of the talents needed. There are physical talents and mental talents.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I agree, I just consider that "mental make up" to be a talent. One of the talents needed. There are physical talents and mental talents.

I agree, but you said their bodies can't get it done.

Quinn and Clausen both have the physical talents to get it done as far as arm, size, strength, etc. But the mental part of their game doesn't appear to be there.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I agree, but you said their bodies can't get it done.

Quinn and Clausen both have the physical talents to get it done as far as arm, size, strength, etc. But the mental part of their game doesn't appear to be there.

Interesting i saw it the opposite way.

[skinsfaninok]

I think a guy like Tom Brady has proven being smart and accurate is just as effective or more than being fast and athletic.. It takes both though for most cases. Cam is just a ridiculous talent

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I was just thinking about Brady Quinn and Claussen. They just do not have the talent. They can read defenses and they know what they want to do, but their bodies just can't get it done.

They do have the talent. No idea where you get that notion from.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They do have the talent. No idea where you get that notion from.

Watching Claussen last year it was just obvious he does not belong in the NFL, period.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Watching Claussen last year it was just obvious he does not belong in the NFL, period.

I disagree I think he Needs to sit a year or two and learn and I think he can eventually be a starting caliber QB, not a superstar but a quality starter.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

I disagree I think he Needs to sit a year or two and learn and I think he can eventually be a starting caliber QB, not a superstar but a quality starter.

We agree to disagree. We will see after he sits a couple years and his rookie two year deal is up. I hope Shannahan don't get Jimmy. Besides, that was the whole point in picking Claussen. He was supposed to be NFL ready pro-style offense etc etc. He wasn't gonna be a project like Tebow or Cam. Tebow and Cam have NFL talent and Jimmy does not in my opinion. What are Jimmy's college football accomplishments compared to Tebow and Cam?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

I disagree I think he Needs to sit a year or two and learn and I think he can eventually be a starting caliber QB, not a superstar but a quality starter.

Yeah, Clausen may not be a world-beater, but he was in a very situation last year.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I was just thinking about Brady Quinn and Claussen. They just do not have the talent. They can read defenses and they know what they want to do, but their bodies just can't get it done.

all due respect but jimmy clause's body right now, what is it 2:39 am on a saturday, is probaly being rubbed and pressed on by a fine ass hooker lady the likes we could only to look at but he actually gets to hit it nuts man , , ,

man i wish i was j claus dick right now! honestly what is cam newton's doing right now? a sleep? probably did yogurt drinks and grandma sermons . .
LOL! jimmy's jimmy is paaaaarrrtaaaaaiiiinnnn! ya know?

hooker lookin woman man! lol! cam missin out. if you askin me

i mean. we talking about what two man grown bodies want right? lol kinda weird // i feel kinda weird. but i rader be jimmy dic than cams

[over the mountain]

to explain myself clearly.

id rather be jimmys penis who is curreently sinking its self back n forth into a models pussy at 2: 58 am on a sunday morning versus cams penis which is surely asleep in a pair of fitted abercrombie & fitch tighted shorts waiting for his sunday game.

[over the mountain]

WOW fellas! wow! nones ya cud post between my drunk "**** i wish i didnt watch contagion" post and the my "me waking up a few hours earlier than i need to" post cuz i woke up on my couch in the basement post? really?

anyways score one for affordable black n white cookies today my bng friends. black n white in the sense that this white part cookie is heading into amish country to see my black cookie ladies best friend (a very large very awesomely ravened tatooed white dude) marry his black cookie lady to be.

to relate this back to qbs, it wasnt more than 10-20 years ago that it was accepted talk that black qbs werent "smart enough", hell man, if you read the book "the help" or lived in the early 60's, it wasnt more than 50-60 yrs ago black people were still segregated.

not a fan of cam but love his early sucess. god knows if he started poorly, the subservant yet steroetypically rooted "i knew it" doubts would undoubtably be placed upon him prematurely.


man, just wish someone would have posted between me being all drunk last night and me waking up trying not to wake up drunk...bastards.

[mooby]

Otm, please don't stop drinking.