Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

MTK · 10-31-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not really words of encouragement for McNabb when Shanahan says Grossman understands the offense better, is better In the 2 minute and gave the team a better chance to win. Still think McNabb starts though

I think it was a desperation move to the bullpen just looking for a spark, and perhaps to light a fire under DM's ass, still doesn't make much sense to me though. McNabb is still clearly the best QB on the roster, gotta live and die with him.

SouperMeister · 10-31-2010, 07:55 PM

Stupid thread. As I've always maintained on this board, consistently good teams win in the trenches, and this O-line is only marginally better than last year. Jamaal Brown has been a major disappointment, the Shanahans have it in their heads that Lichtensteiger can compete against superior competition when all evidence is to the contrary, and Rabach's best days are long past. This offense will NEVER be consistent until we upgrade across the ENTIRE line. Trent Williams was a great first step, but we need significant upgrades at every other position on the line IMO. Tom Brady would struggle behind this line every bit as much as McNabb, and that's a fact.

MTK · 10-31-2010, 07:59 PM

The OL got blown the F up today.

Blaming McNabb is just so nearsighted it's not even funny. Yeah his play was certainly a factor to a degree, the INT certainly didn't help, but the shotty OL play is what we should be focusing on.

Hog1 · 10-31-2010, 08:02 PM

After todays performance, you may see him coming out of the bye??

44ever · 10-31-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it was a desperation move to the bullpen just looking for a spark, and perhaps to light a fire under DM's ass, still doesn't make much sense to me though. McNabb is still clearly the best QB on the roster, gotta live and die with him.

When the Eagles benched him, he came back really strong. I agree with some others that the O-line needs some "tuning" Can't expect DM to do it all.

SFREDSKIN · 10-31-2010, 08:06 PM

By the way, Campbell is having a great game today.

Defensewins · 10-31-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsFanatic

The mcnabb of 2004/05 would found a way to seal the win for his team but it's been evident since the beginning of the month that he is no longer the player he used to be. Too many interceptions and he is not throwing as many TD passes. He has been bailed out by the defense in the Eagles Game, Packers Game, and the Bears game. I wasn't expcting to be benched with the team only down 6 for Rex Grossman but he is clearly not the same guy. This team is damm lucky to be 4-4 because they could easily be 2-6.

McNabb is not done!
He also is not as nearly bad as you are at creating a ridiculous thread like this one. Talk about an overreaction.
McNabb was running for his life from a very good d-line. Detroit is not the pushovers they used to be.
We were 4-12 last year. 4-4 right now is not as bad as you think considering where we were as a team less than a year ago.
McNabb is not the problem...the impatience of Redskins fans is the problem.

BREAKING NEWS: we are not going to the Super Bowl this year. Get used that idea. We are building a good team. It take a year or two.
The sooner you deal with reality...the sooner you will not create threads like this one.

BaltimoreSkins · 10-31-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it was a desperation move to the bullpen just looking for a spark, and perhaps to light a fire under DM's ass, still doesn't make much sense to me though. McNabb is still clearly the best QB on the roster, gotta live and die with him.

I've always wondered why it is a big issue to pull a QB in an NFL game but to pull a pitcher in a MLB game is common. Same issues apply. Your starter is always your best player. If neither is accurate or reading adjustments made by opponents they should be pulled. Sometimes you just don't have it.

rbanerjee23 · 10-31-2010, 08:45 PM

McNabb didn't make throws when he had to... but he was running scared and you would be too if you had zero confidence in the OL which is about right. Suh and Vanden Bosch were men among boys today, Rabach and Lichtensteiger would probably not start on any other team and receivers again dropped passes which were tough but really need to be pulled in. I will say that the pass into triple coverage was all McNabb.

mooby · 10-31-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsFanatic

That INT was still the reason they lost the game. Yes the O-line is crappy but that INT was the deal breaker

No it wasn't. There was plenty of time left, we weren't down by that much, and we still could've won. You're just looking for reasons to blame McNabb.

I'm not going to defend his pick, it was a retarded decision to throw the ball into a crowd with 3 defenders, but there was still a chance to win it after that.

The game was over when the offensive line allowed their d-line to strip sack Grossman and it got returned for a touchdown.

rbanerjee23 · 10-31-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

McNabb is not done!
He also is not as nearly bad as you are at creating a ridiculous thread like this one. Talk about an overreaction.
McNabb was running for his life from a very good d-line. Detroit is not the pushovers they used to be.
We were 4-12 last year. 4-4 right now is not as bad as you think considering where we were as a team less than a year ago.
McNabb is not the problem...the impatience of Redskins fans is the problem.

Seriously, that's why I said all the talk about going 10-6 and winning the division was ridiculous. This team is rebuilding and you are going to have ups and downs. We have hung around with some good teams and were due for a pretty decisive beating -- hopefully we keep building, have a good draft, keep developing players etc. and build a contender for the future.

One huge positive: Brandon Banks is electric, he almost ran three back for TDs today, one got called back for the illegal block and in the other one he just tripped (or something, right?). I hope he turns out to be a huge spark plug for our return game.

GMScud · 10-31-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

By the way, Campbell is having a great game today.

310 2tds, no picks. Good for Jason. I don't think he'd be doing any better or any worse than McNabb here in DC this year given the current state our line, running backs, and receivers.

Gtothearry · 10-31-2010, 08:51 PM

Just echo the rest of the thread: Mcnabb wasn't the reason for the loss. The OL was horrible and was the reason we lost. Sure the passes were pretty bad but when u get hit on every play that happens. Mcnabb's legs kept us in this game if anything. I also would be willing to bet that Mcnabb would've held onto the ball that Grossman fumbled.

I really can't understand Shannahans reasoning at the end of the game. U pull a QB that has played 95% of the game in favor of a QB that isn't even warmed up? We brought Mcnabb in to lead this team. Y pull him with 1:39 left in the game. Grossman certainly wasn't the answer........

Dirtbag59 · 10-31-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

When the Eagles benched him, he came back really strong. I agree with some others that the O-line needs some "tuning" Can't expect DM to do it all.

Yes, but the difference is when they benched him it wasn't in a contract year. We don't know if there's going to be a franchise tag next year so there's a decent chance that we'll have traded a 2nd and 4th round pick to a division rival for a one year rental.

SFREDSKIN · 10-31-2010, 08:56 PM

Maybe they benched him as leverage to contract talks so they don't have to over pay him

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10-31-2010, 07:55 PM	#77
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss Stupid thread. As I've always maintained on this board, consistently good teams win in the trenches, and this O-line is only marginally better than last year. Jamaal Brown has been a major disappointment, the Shanahans have it in their heads that Lichtensteiger can compete against superior competition when all evidence is to the contrary, and Rabach's best days are long past. This offense will NEVER be consistent until we upgrade across the ENTIRE line. Trent Williams was a great first step, but we need significant upgrades at every other position on the line IMO. Tom Brady would struggle behind this line every bit as much as McNabb, and that's a fact.

10-31-2010, 07:59 PM	#78
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss The OL got blown the F up today. Blaming McNabb is just so nearsighted it's not even funny. Yeah his play was certainly a factor to a degree, the INT certainly didn't help, but the shotty OL play is what we should be focusing on. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-31-2010, 08:02 PM	#79
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss After todays performance, you may see him coming out of the bye?? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-31-2010, 08:06 PM	#81
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss By the way, Campbell is having a great game today. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-31-2010, 08:45 PM	#84
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss McNabb didn't make throws when he had to... but he was running scared and you would be too if you had zero confidence in the OL which is about right. Suh and Vanden Bosch were men among boys today, Rabach and Lichtensteiger would probably not start on any other team and receivers again dropped passes which were tough but really need to be pulled in. I will say that the pass into triple coverage was all McNabb. __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

10-31-2010, 08:51 PM	#88
Gtothearry The Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,525	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss Just echo the rest of the thread: Mcnabb wasn't the reason for the loss. The OL was horrible and was the reason we lost. Sure the passes were pretty bad but when u get hit on every play that happens. Mcnabb's legs kept us in this game if anything. I also would be willing to bet that Mcnabb would've held onto the ball that Grossman fumbled. I really can't understand Shannahans reasoning at the end of the game. U pull a QB that has played 95% of the game in favor of a QB that isn't even warmed up? We brought Mcnabb in to lead this team. Y pull him with 1:39 left in the game. Grossman certainly wasn't the answer........

10-31-2010, 08:56 PM	#90
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss Maybe they benched him as leverage to contract talks so they don't have to over pay him __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

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