Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

Also how do you start a thread on this web site, because I really want to discuss this Fred Davis pick. Mark my words: Three years from now, we will be on Warpath asking ourselves how the skins could pick Davis over Bennett, who our rival Cowboys picked. He is an awsome blocker, which we need at TE and an awsome redzone target at 6'7, with a 34 inch vertical jump. He played B-ball and could dunk over his coach. Yes, he had 49 receptions, compared to Davis' 62, but most scouts agreed he was poorly utilized at Texas A&M and he was a junior, where as Davis is a senior. Davis only had 38 receptions as a junior and he is a converted WR. Bennett will be WAYYYYY better.

LOL, your career is not off to a great start huh? I think you have to get to 10 posts first.

BTW, there is already at least one Fred Davis thread. Would have made more sense to post this rant there rather than in the Erasmus James discussion. http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...s-profile.html

[djnemo65]

Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

I have to agree w/ most of this. I know he has been injured and injuries are a problem. I think (if he can pass him physical) he could be an asset to this team as a solid back-up, something we need on the dline.

[RIGGO/NYC]

huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, but please do not refer to this passing of time as a carreer. But back to my point, this trade should have been done for a nickle, instead of a washed out pass rusher. I know some idiot is going to say washed out is inaccurate, due to his age of 25, but he is washed out and will do absolutely nothing with the skins. Just to show you how stupid this front office is, he will make the team, costing us a 7th rounder and have no more than 2 sacks. This is Jerome Mathis all over again, but at least Mathis was the vet min and did not cost a pick potentially.

[MTK]

Not a bad risk at all. We only lose a pick if he makes the team.

[12thMan]

I'm still laughing at Courney Penn?

F*ckin priceless.

[724Skinsfan]

Where was it engraved that after the Rdskins traded for Erasmus James that we were done looking for depth at any position? We are deficient in pass rushing depth and the Skins saw an opportunity to grab a player who is very familiar with our D-Line coach. If they don't like him or he simply can't play at our anticipated level then he's cut. Just because we traded for him doesn't mean we are most certainly not keeping our eyes open for potential DB depth.

[djnemo65]

[QUOTE=RIGGO/NYC;450235]huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, QUOTE]

Hahaha, your post questioning how to start a thread was your 10th post. Therefore when you were trying to start a thread you would have had only 9 posts. Wow.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

I know some idiot is going to say washed out is inaccurate, due to his age of 25, but he is washed out and will do absolutely nothing with the skins. Just to show you how stupid this front office is, he will make the team, costing us a 7th rounder and have no more than 2 sacks. This is Jerome Mathis all over again, but at least Mathis was the vet min and did not cost a pick potentially.

Everybody who disagrees with you is an idiot. That's pure genius. Why are you so worked up newbie?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Everybody who disagrees with you is an idiot. That's pure genius. Why are you so worked up newbie?

Isn't the expression washed up, not washed out? As in, Courney Penn is all washed up?

[redskinsskickazz]

I like this move a lot, all upside with virtually no downside.
Most seventh rounders dont make the team anyway and we only have to give one up if he makes the squad.

[wilsowilso]

Erasmus James is probably more washed out than washed up because he is still very young and while the luster on his first round shine has faded(washed out) his career might not be over(washed up) by a long shot. If his knee doesn't allow him to resume his career then James is both washed out and washed up, but we have no way of knowing that right now. Athletes can of course make comebacks from injury and this guy was a player.

Courney Penn is washed up. If he is who I think he is? If not then I have no opinion of Courney Penn.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm still laughing at Courney Penn?

F*ckin priceless.

Courtney Penn is on our school board-see below, I got him mixed up w/courtney brown & misspelled his name cause the 'h' on my keyboard gets stuck a lot. Glad it brought some laughs! Also glad we got E. James, maybe he'll regain his form w/time.

Courtney A. Penn. Effective July 1, 2007, Mr. Penn began his second three-year term on the School Board. He is the Special Assistant to the President of Roanoke College. Mr. Penn is involved in a wide range of civic activities including the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Beta Phi Boule of Sigma Pi Phi Fraternity, Inc., he serves as co-chairman of the United Way Community Engagement Program and is a member on the State Board of Juvenile Justice. Mr. Penn has served as a member of the Roanoke City Advisory Board for Human Development and the Roanoke City Arts Commission and was chair of the education committee of the Roanoke Branch NAACP. He has three children, and two who are school-age attend Roanoke City Public Schools.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Courtney Penn is on our school board-see below, I got him mixed up w/courtney brown & misspelled his name cause the 'h' on my keyboard gets stuck a lot. Glad it brought some laughs! Also glad we got E. James, maybe he'll regain his form w/time.

We didn't pass on Courney Penn that year freddy. He was the number 1 overall pick to Cleveland. We took Lavar second and Samuels third.

Edit: Someone already pointed that out my bad.

[Rajmahal33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

There's nothing about this move that has me jumping for joy, like problem answered OR we now have some stud at DE, couldn't be any further from the truth. This guy has proven he can not stay healthy could not even pass a recent physical in Minn., what makes me think he all of a sudden will? Nothing!

I will take a wait and see approach on him, first off just see if the kid can pass the physical tomorrow. If so we didn't as it appears give up much of anything for him IF he happens to make the team. If we get VERY lucky maybe the kid can provide depth at DE for us something that surely would not hurt. But with his injury track record I'm not very optimistic about him providing much of anything to our team.

It's not often you can "answer" a problem or find a "stud" at DE for a conditional 7th round pick. I would be content if this guy could be a 3rd down pass rush DE. It brings up an interesting point...how many sacks/tackles/hurries etc does James have to produce before ppl will be saying that this guy was "worth it"?