Our offense is Pathetic

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by atomicnixon

unfortunately, i dont think it would have mattered.

It wouldn't have...9 seconds would have been all we got, and we had a turnover on downs to end the game, so it's not like the 9 seconds would have mattered at all.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Seriously! If it wasn't for Gibbs fumbling that ball (which was recovered for a TD), Gibbs bumbling that reception that ended up getting picked, Williams failing to get more of those picks, or Saunders getting blown past for sacks, we totally would have won that game. Damn you coaches!!

You are correct, Gibbs didnt do any of those things. Maybe they need to coach the players better on technique. The bigger problem is Gibbs and the coaching staff dont seem to put the O in positions where they can succeed. Gibbs cant control if JC throws a short pass to Betts missing a 1st down by a yard but he can call a play for a young Qb where the 2 yard pass is not the first read (and blow a TO to call it).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by redduke44

what about portis,I have a 300 dollar portis jersey my wife bought me 2 years ago what the f#$k am I supposed to do do with it, any suggestions?

You spent $300.00 on a jersey? Did it come with a lower section 50 yard line tickets?

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by irish

You are correct, Gibbs didnt do any of those things. Maybe they need to coach the players better on technique. The bigger problem is Gibbs and the coaching staff dont seem to put the O in positions where they can succeed. Gibbs cant control if JC throws a short pass to Betts missing a 1st down by a yard but he can call a play for a young Qb where the 2 yard pass is not the first read (and blow a TO to call it).

I have a big problem with this. The coaching staff put the team in a very good position to win. They put Moss in position to catch the bomb down the sideline, they put Lloyd in postion to catch the bomb down the middle of the field for a TD. They put the players in a number of winnable situations and they PLAYERS lost the game.

I can really see why some people have a problem with you. You make no sense.

[MTK]

Campbell rushed his read on that 4th down, he had McCardell wide freaking open but he just rushed and dumped it to Betts. I'll chalk that up to his inexperience and not anything to do with bad coaching.

[Sean Taylor]

Originally Posted by irish

You are correct, Gibbs didnt do any of those things. Maybe they need to coach the players better on technique. The bigger problem is Gibbs and the coaching staff dont seem to put the O in positions where they can succeed. Gibbs cant control if JC throws a short pass to Betts missing a 1st down by a yard but he can call a play for a young Qb where the 2 yard pass is not the first read (and blow a TO to call it).

Dude, I have read some of your posts and you have no clue what you're talking about. Coaches have had 1% to do with both losses if that. Its all on the players and execution.......add in injuries if you want but that's just another excuse. Moss does not drop two passes and fumble we win by 14 yesterday. You want Gibbs out so bad and its obvious in your attitude after every loss. You don't seem have anything to say after a 34-3 home win though.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Campbell rushed his read on that 4th down, he had McCardell wide freaking open but he just rushed and dumped it to Betts. I'll chalk that up to his inexperience and not anything to do with bad coaching.

would you have disagreed with a sellers rush directly behind kendell?

I would have been very satisfied with that regardless of the outcome

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Campbell rushed his read on that 4th down, he had McCardell wide freaking open but he just rushed and dumped it to Betts. I'll chalk that up to his inexperience and not anything to do with bad coaching.

**EDIT** I Thought you were talking about the games final play, not the 4th and 1.**

As far as the clock managment, I no way did that reflect yesterdays outcome...but thats still something I am getting tired of seeing from the Skins'. I wont even put it on the coaches, I will put this on the COaches, the Players, The Waterboys...anyone on that sideline who watches the game of football. If they want, I'll be their clock managment guy on Sundays for 10 bucks an hour...Its more common sense than anything, especially at the end of the game. I have no complaints with the coaching staff yesterday, but I just have a feeling this could be something that comes back to hurt us in the future, and has in the past....

[scowan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

This thread is pathetic. They made mistakes that they need to work. The offense is pretty good in my opinion. Campbell is the best qb that the redskins have had in a long ass time- since Brad Johnson. He made some mistakes that need to be corrected, but I okay with that because it seemed that he corrected some things from the giants game. The concern for me is the health of the offensive line and gibbs having the team prepared in critical situations. I am pro-gibbs, but at times he just doesn't seem to have thought through game situations. Like under 2:39 left in the game with 1 timeout. Call the timeout before or after the 2 minute warning ? And here's another - 4th and a long 1, should there be a call ready just for this situation ? or if a timeout is needed, should he challenge the spot of the ball - since you are calling a timeout anyways. The worse thing that would happen would be the ball being placed back. Best case: the ball being moved forward, which if i'm not mistaken would save a timeout. Another thing that they could have done was ask to bring out the chains for a measure. That would have given them enough time to think things through (and you can then challenge).

Some one please tell me why on 4th and one we have to call a timeout and have a "committee meeting" on the sideline to call a play. If I am Joe Gibbs, I am saying, everyone shutup, I have my Bust in the HOF, we are running Sellers, all 286 pounds of him right up the middle. Why do we call a timeout and why do we run a flare pattern or whatever that call was to Betts? I am so tired of our clock management issues and the wrong play being called late in the game. I am ready for Greg Williams to become our head coach and Al Saunders to remain as our OC. Joe continues to do dumb things late in the game with the clock and timeouts. I don't know if he can't think fast enough anymore or what it is, but coaches like Beliceck and Jeff Fisher and Bill Cohwer are so much better managing the clock and the time. Joe has become clueless as to how to do this? Even Aikman mentioned it yesterday.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by jsarno

It wouldn't have...9 seconds would have been all we got, and we had a turnover on downs to end the game, so it's not like the 9 seconds would have mattered at all.

It's really not about the 9 seconds per se; it's about being prepared for situations like this. Planning ahead - what are going to do if we were put in this situation or that situation. It just doesn't look like gibbs and company have thought about situations beforehand. 4th and 1, it looks like we get a bad spot, late in the 4th qtr, down by 3. What do you do?
Under 2:39 left in the game, 1 timeout left. When do you call the timeout ?

These things need to be hashed through now, before, after the game - instead of during the game when you have 5 seconds to make a decision.

[TheBigD]

Would everyone please stop whining. Man, your team lost 2 games, only one behind Dallas in the loss column. Your team lost to 2 winning teams with the combined record of 7-3 (maybe 8-3 after tonight) and all I see is a bunch of posts about how pathetic the offense is. You guys are too spoiled, imagine being a Saints, Dolphins, or Rams fans.

One thing I have noticed, the ones who whine alot are the ones with posts less than 200 or so. It is mostly guys who just joined and know little about football and think the season is over.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

Would everyone please stop whining. Man, your team lost 2 games, only one behind Dallas in the loss column. Your team lost to 2 winning teams with the combined record of 7-3 (maybe 8-3 after tonight) and all I see is a bunch of posts about how pathetic the offense is. You guys are too spoiled, imagine being a Saints, Dolphins, or Rams fans.

The knee jerk whining and "end of the world" talk is a bit out of line, but a lot of us have a legitimate beef. It's not so much that Washington has lost two games; it's the manner of the losses. The two losses were both games that should have been wins, and were basically given away. A few more first downs in the second half of the Giants game, and that a W. A few more catches yesterday, or one less fumble and that's a W.

And talk about spoiled... your quarterback did everything humanly possible to lose last Monday night, and since Buffalo can't be like the other 83% of the league and recover an onsides kick, the Cowboys eeked out an undeserved victory.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

Would everyone please stop whining. Man, your team lost 2 games, only one behind Dallas in the loss column. Your team lost to 2 winning teams with the combined record of 7-3 (maybe 8-3 after tonight) and all I see is a bunch of posts about how pathetic the offense is. You guys are too spoiled, imagine being a Saints, Dolphins, or Rams fans.

One thing I have noticed, the ones who whine alot are the ones with posts less than 200 or so. It is mostly guys who just joined and know little about football and think the season is over.

I personally can appreciate what the redskins have accomplished this season after going through last season. 2006 was a shitty year all the way around for the redskins - offense, defense, st, coaching, personnel decisions(that impacted the 2006 season).

What I want is to have the redskins get to the next level and stay there. And the only way to do this is - keep doing the things that work really well and keep correcting mistakes. The redskins are very close.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I don't know anything else to say. Speechless. Our defense is too good for this.

And this from the same guy that stated:

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

We are a unique team with soooo much offensive firepower. I mean we have a strong-armed quarterback, fast running back, fast and quick receivers, and a sure-handed tightend. The offensive line is not as strong as years past. The line is turning into a more versatile and agile line with the additions of Kendall and DeMulling. They are better at getting to the perimeter than smash mouth. The identity of this offense has changed. We are now the identity of the Kansas City Chiefs offense but with better athletes even though they had a better o-line. Did I analyzed this correctly?

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

And this from the same guy that stated:

We got ourselves a John Kerry right here.